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  • Mar 2, 2009, 07:44 PM
    scaredypants
    Deep finger cut!
    I just cutmy index finder vy accident with a broken "coca cola" cup.
    The cut is 3/4 of an inch in length and runnsquite deep. Nearly bone deep. I can ,move the finger quite easily and painlessly.

    Ihave bandaged with gause(tightly) and am holding the hand above my head

    does this cut warrant stitches, i live in canada and my health card has yet to be used

    notei do not abuse free health care, i like to treat myself for allmost all of mysicknesses but im alone and it's very bloody!
  • Mar 2, 2009, 07:59 PM
    darkvision

    Well a DIY solution(not necessarily recommended) is to thoroughly clean the wound with alcohol(not the drinking kind)/neosporin or some other cleaning agent and then use super glue to close the wound. It will likely leave a smaller scar than stitchs and will hold your skin quite well(as a side not make sure your pushing the wound together when you super glue it). Though for something that deep I would probably at least call the doctor to see what they say especially since your medical is free. (so to speak)
  • Mar 2, 2009, 09:47 PM
    darkvision

    Glad to help :) the witness was in part because there are people out their that would go "alcohol ok" and stick their finger in a bottle of tequila, and I as a reformed alcoholic could not stand to see such a tasty liquid tainted by the iron in someone's blood :P

    But really I do tech support for a living I've noticed its best to be specific or serious excommunications can occur and I would hate to make the issue worse when I was trying to help :)
  • Mar 2, 2009, 10:25 PM
    KISS

    I've been in that situation before and maybe 35 years later, there have been no problems.

    I had a chain saw cut that was pretty nasty and a couple of other nasty wounds.

    Wash with water and cleanse with Hydrogen peroxide because it was a chain saw.
    Bandage tightly. Hurry and wait. Don't rush to take off the bandage.

    I do like the product "2nd skin" to act as a moisture layer between the cut and the gauze. Might not be good in this application.

    You have to use the gauze to close the wound, so it has to be tight.

    For a deep wound, I personally would not use Neosporin.

    If you decide to get it stitched, it needs to be done within 18 hours. 24 hours tops. The sooner, the better.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 02:37 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkvision View Post
    well a DIY solution(not necessarily recommended) is to thoroughly clean the wound with alcohol(not the drinking kind)/neosporin or some other cleaning agent and then use super glue to close the wound. it will likely leave a smaller scar than stitchs and will hold your skin quite well(as a side not make sure your pushing the wound together when you super glue it). though for something that deep i would probably at least call the doctor to see what they say especially since your medical is free. (so to speak)



    Super gluing a wound without medical treatment very often serves no purpose other than to seal in an infection or the possibility of infection. This is most definitely not a good idea.

    No, I'm not medically trained. Yes, I date an ER Doctor and regularly pick his brains about this "stuff."
  • Mar 4, 2009, 03:13 PM
    darkvision
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Super gluing a wound without medical treatment very often serves no purpose other than to seal in an infection or the possibility of infection. This is most definitely not a good idea.

    No, I'm not medically trained. Yes, I date an ER Doctor and regularly pick his brains about this "stuff."

    Yes I am CPR/First aid qualified and while in the navy was qualified on paper up to the level an E-5 needed to be as an E-3. That being said I actually got that handy bit of advice from a surgeon(who evidently didn't care about the liability explained later on). They have a very similar product that they do use. Also its why I recommended to clean VERY thoroughly which you would want to do whether wrapping it in gauze or super gluing it. But it also depends on how deep the cut is, which I also stated and that he probably should go to the hospital for it.

    Anyway moving back the "infection" to show you why you are miss informed. Why are burns so dangerous, why in the case of any burn it es recommended to not pick at the scabs/take off the skin. The reason being is even that severely damaged skin exists between you and infection. Its generally speaking not the burn that kills a burn victim but the infections they get after the burn because their skin is not their to protect them(in other words the whole burn area is an open wound).

    Now all that being said I probably should have stated a lot of this prior to all this. And in that idea will continue with some more information. For legal reasons super glue is not recommended because it is NOT medically sterile(being the main one) and that the compound it breaks down to in your body is considered an unhealthy one. A better recommendation probably would have been for me to tell him to get some form of liquid bandage(as an alternative to stitches) that in essence does the same thing as super glue but is more expensive, harder to find, and probably something he didn't have handy. If anything I should have at least stated this option prior to this but honestly didn't think of it till now which is my fault. The reason super glue came immediately to mind is because it was relatively fresh on my mind because a friend had just recently had a nasty cut that he super glued and a week later was hardly noticeable.

    Hope that clarify's a lot and sorry for not being this clear to start with.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 03:32 PM
    KISS

    I've used superglue to close cuts, but I would not use it for deep ones. Usually I'll use superglue after the cut has quit bleeding and the skin is just flapping there.

    And yes, I am aware of the superglue type product that's medically approved for this.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 03:34 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid View Post
    I've used superglue to close cuts, but I would not use it for deep ones. Usually I'll use superglue after the cut has quit bleeding and the skin is just flapping there.

    And yes, I am aware of the superglue type product that's medically approved for this.



    When I had major surgery in November they "superglued" me.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 03:40 PM
    artlady

    Keep pressure applied and then you can try to use butterfly bandages on it,once the bleeding has stopped.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 04:56 PM
    darkvision
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid View Post
    I've used superglue to close cuts, but I would not use it for deep ones. Usually I'll use superglue after the cut has quit bleeding and the skin is just flapping there.

    And yes, I am aware of the superglue type product that's medically approved for this.

    Wasn't saying you hadn't heard of it or used it was just trying to better explain the ramifications of using super glue. That being stated to explain more about medically sterile(you could just wiki) but its basically that the plant that makes super glue doesn't ensure the A quality of products(purity of compounds used is 99.9% pure) and or B that the process for bottling/making the glue isn't set up to stop foreign materials and bacteria from getting in(to a certain percentage as nothing is truly sterile).

    Also I can't remember if I stated so above, but superglue/medical equivalent(and stitches of course) reduce scaring(both visible and in the flesh itself).
  • Mar 4, 2009, 05:54 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkvision View Post
    Wasnt saying you hadnt heard of it or used it was just trying to better explain the ramifications of using super glue. that being stated to explain more about medically sterile(you could just wiki) but its basically that the plant that makes super glue doesnt ensure the A quality of products(purity of compounds used is 99.9% pure) and or B that the process for bottling/making the glue isnt set up to stop foreign materials and bacteria from getting in(to a certain percentage as nothing is truly sterile).

    also i can't remember if i stated so above, but superglue/medical equivalent(and stitches of course) reduce scaring(both visible and in the flesh itself).



    Please don't refer people to sites - the way this works is YOU look up the info and post it. And then you post the site where you found it.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 06:57 PM
    JudyKayTee
    [QUOTE=Comments on this post
    darkvision disagrees: This has nothing to do with the topic and is not accurate..[/QUOTE]



    Let's ask a moderator for an opinion on referring people to other sites, shall we?

    Oh, revenge reddie, by the way.
  • Mar 4, 2009, 07:08 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Let's ask a moderator for an opinion on referring people to other sites, shall we?

    Oh, revenge reddie, by the way.

    Hay Judy,I didn't know that referring to sites was discouraged.Often I will post part of a article and add the url as well but often times it's a very lengthy article and then I just post the link.
    Does this mean I have to stop? Sorry to go off topic here.:o
  • Mar 5, 2009, 07:02 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by artlady View Post
    Hay Judy,I didn't know that referring to sites was discouraged.Often I will post part of a article and add the url as well but often times its a very lengthy article and then I just post the link.
    Does this mean I have to stop? Sorry to go off topic here.:o



    Argument has gone back and forth on this - one of the problems is that people who post very often can't understand what they are reading (and I am particularly referring to the legal boards) so they tend not to check the site or, if they do, misinterpret it. Usually it's more a case of "the Statute is 10 years and here's where it says that" and that seems to work for everybody.

    Sometimes people are only looking at how many times they've posted so rather than put any time into the question they simply look up a site, cut and paste it and move on. Helps nobody.

    I realize you've posted some very helpful info on the legal threads plus a "cut to the chase" sort of boil down and that's been helpful to people. In fact - and I can't remember what it was about - you found something that I had not seen so I learned, too.

    The other problem with posting other sites is recently we had someone who made a legal argument and quoted another info board as his source. Well, when I went to the site HE wrote the answer on the other board so he was quoting himself and providing very incorrect info twice.

    So it's a mixed bag - and the various boards might be different. I personally don't like to see a site without a quote.
  • Mar 5, 2009, 07:28 AM
    J_9
    Back to the OP...

    If the cut is very deep, you may have some nerve or tendon damage, best to get it checked out by a doctor.
  • Mar 5, 2009, 08:31 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scaredypants View Post
    i just cutmy index finder vy accident with a broken "coca cola" cup.
    the cut is 3/4 of an inch in length and runnsquite deep. nearly bone deep. i can ,move the finger quite easily and painlessly.

    ihave bandaged with gause(tightly) and am holding the hand above my head

    does this cut warrant stitches, i live in canada and my health card has yet to be used

    notei do not abuse free health care, i like to treat myself for allmost all of mysicknesses but im alone and it's very bloody!

    Just so you know, healthcare in Canada isn't free. Years ago a small amount was deducted from our paychecks. That is no longer the case. Now employers bear all the cost of this system.

    Ms tickle a Canadian
  • Mar 5, 2009, 03:16 PM
    this8384

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arnimal7
    arnimal7 agrees: Don't feel like you have to justify yourself to some of these people on here. You were just giving your advice. ;)

    Please don't follow other users around just to throw your 2 cents in. It's extremely childish. Nobody said anything about justification... with the exception of you, who called into question the legal knowledge of some very prominent members, after very unwisely advising a 20-year-old to scout around in chatrooms to find someone who wants to give up their baby.
  • Mar 5, 2009, 03:42 PM
    tickle

    Hi 8384, am I missing something here because I don't connect your post in response to animal7's disagree. I just got home from work and came on, and I am looking, 'say what'. You know what I mean. Pleae advise :)

    Tick
  • Mar 5, 2009, 03:58 PM
    this8384

    A 20-year-old girl came to the site asking about having a baby; she's unable to do so as she had her ovaries removed at 16. She felt adoption agencies weren't an option as she didn't have strong credit.

    Arnimal7 told her to browse chat rooms looking for pregnant women willing to give up their baby and said it was "adoption without all the huge fees and all the legal documents."

    JudyKayTee and Synnen called it terrible legal and moral advice, at which point arnimal7 said, "And for Judy and Synnen, what makes think you know the law? Obviously you don't because being a sarrogate mother is legal, and if MsPhillips wanted to have one she could. But for you two to judge people and it seems like you always do, find out facts first before saying things like shame on you!"

    She then proceeded to come to this thread and tell darkvision that they don't have to justify themselves to "some of these people" on this board.

    A bit too conincidental if you ask me...
  • Mar 5, 2009, 04:07 PM
    J_9
    Off topic, therefore closed.

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