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Old Dec 11, 2008, 12:29 AM
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Welfare-yes or no?

Would you like to cut off welfare progrms? Why?
How would you go about doing this?

 
     

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Old Dec 11, 2008, 02:48 AM   #2  
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There will always be poor, needy and less fortunate.
I do not think it should be cut but restructured so that not everybody is eligible just because they have a baby or because they are lazy.
One thing is teens need to be taught differently about sex ed so they are not thinking it is okay to just go around having sex and ending up pregnant then get on welfare. Where I live it is like a dog breeding factory for the past 10 yrs. Like this guy came here from down South. He is homeless so he sleeps with three different girls every night (Remember playing musical chairs? Now they play musical beds.)
The one just had a baby to another guy and is pregnant to another guy and now she is sleeping with this guy.
He doesn't keep it a secret that he has gf's in three different states.

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creekpeople agrees: definitely
 
 
     
 
 
Old Dec 20, 2008, 07:01 PM   #3  
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[b]From boat21 and creekpeople welfare or not!!!! Explain this to us. To get a job at a Corporation you have to get drug tested. To get a job at a hospital, same thing. Working for the government, ditto. So explain why a Welfare recipient can get a paycheck from the government and not have to take a drug test!!! Welfare, yes with a drug test. Welfare NO without one. boat21 was going to ask on a thread why the government doesn't randomly test welfare recipients and yet most government employees have to get tested. That should be the answer to welfare yes......or no.

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simoneaugie agrees: Absolutely. But then how many would simply collect clean pee from a potty chair?
 
 
     
 
 
Old Dec 20, 2008, 07:34 PM   #4  
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I would like to see either required government work programs, picking up trash at the park, cleaning fire trucks, anything, or training programs that they to actually go to before they will earn any welfare money.

And agreed, they must pass a drug test each month or week, since if they have money for drugs they dont need welfare
 
 
     
 
 
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some of the problem with putting the welfare recipient to work would be 'How do they get there?'

Public transportation is all good if your in a city environment,but what about those who are 10,15,or 20 miles out in the country?

The welfare system was brought to bare when?

And back then what were the criteria for receiving it?

WHO made the changes since then,ratifying the system till it got to the state it's in today?

I suspect those answers will be forthcoming from the political members who have the research and debating skills I sadly lack.

Good topic.

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N0help4u agrees: Exactly many don't have any means to even get out to get a job!
 
 
     
 
 
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Welfare can not be cut but there should be more restrictions applied. They could be asked to work/volunteer for their money. This could 'break' the Welfare chain in families. They could gain more respect for themselves by being 'useful', accomplishing something, anything. There should be a cap on the number of children, sans fathers, that each person collects. This requirement would also profit the children as fewer would receive more attention from 'Mom'.
 
 
     
 
 
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Something needs to be done because while welfare is a necessity for some too many abuse it
Today on the radio they were talking about a 29 yr old woman that has 9 kids and wants to be given a van. Then where is she going to get the money for insurance. She already gets charities to support her besides her welfare. She doesn't collect child support and who's to say she doesn't have more kids?
 
 
     
 
 
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How welfare effects your taxes! The state of Delaware has NO NO sales tax because its not a welfare state that way. And no its not Dupont that suck it up to offset taxes. Even my property tax is cheap! Hear is another Major FLAW!!! in the system. I found out from a police officer he arrested a person that had 3 welfare check stubs in his wallet! 1 N.Y, 2 N.J. 3 Pa. He called N.Y. welfare office and they said they can't do anything about that now times that by how many!!!!!!!!But yet the I.R.S will bust my chops of my business on audit and my taxes are way out of control. We cloud literally save 100s of millions If we check for fraud and how hard is that with a tied in computer system. We could pay off that system probally the first year or so on how much it will save the goverment. Lets clarfie that the "Goverment" Dha How much it will save the "people" police fraud on welfare recipients.
To much of welfare has also become come a supplemental income for the drug dealers to get a check until the get paid for there deals they need to collect.
Signed I am mad money out of my families mouth to a thief's!!!!!!
P.S. It might cost more to jail them get this I looked up costs to jail a person for a year over $90,000.00 a year!!!! per person!!
 
 
     
 
 
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I think now with all the corp. bailouts and all the welfare recips. are going to be a drop in the bucket. We ain't seen nothing yet!
 
 
     
 
 
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I agree that any welfare recipents should be drug tested.

Now, I live in a section 8 kind of area. I'm not a section 8 guy, I pay all my bills and get no assistance, I just happen to live in "that side of town". And I see how the welfare class is, first hand, and my thought on welfare is it is a complete and total WASTE of tax payer money.

I would allow welfare for children only, as they can not be expected to fend for theirself. Of course, the parents would be the stewards of the money, but they had better do a darn good job of taking care of the kids. They need to at least TRY to work. I think it should be like unemployment, where you have to put in so many applications per week to keep the benifet.

After so long of a time, the parent still doesn't get a job, then other measures need to be taken, it's time for social services to step in, becuase I beleive the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, if the kid isn't placed in a "working family" enviroment, then we will breed a whole new generation of welfare moochers.

Girls that get knocked up:
Easy. Welfare is granted under the terms above, under the condition that the woman gets her tubes tied. The father of the child pays for the procedure. (not tax payers) the father of the child can avoid this if he agrees to have himself "snipped" as well.

As far as general welfare when no kids are involved. No kids, no welfare, get a job or stave.
 
 
     
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