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Old Jul 30, 2007, 03:30 PM
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Political Culture

What are the two major political philosphies-librealism and conservatism political culture in the U.S. have nurtured.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 04:01 AM   #11  
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Hehe, I love how you dig yourself deeper.
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Old Aug 2, 2007, 07:07 AM   #12  
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You are so obnoxious (shakes head).

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Hello anastazia:

In today's political arena, neither political party represents a choice between true liberal or conservative views. BOTH parties are very liberal. That is, if you consider liberal to mean using government power to force social change.

Both parties consider themselves the arbiter of morals.... Democrats think the morals of the nation are paramount. Republicans think YOUR morals are paramount. The difference ends there. They BOTH use the cops to enforce their views.

Although Republicans shout about smaller government, they certainly don't mind using government power to enforce THEIR views - ala the drug war, and the give away to their friends in corporate America.

Democrats are full of it too. They don't mind using government power either, ala the drug war, and their attempt to redistribute the wealth by attacking corporate America.

So, looking at the parties today won't give you a sense of what the terms really mean.

In the beginning, conservatives liked it the way it was. It pretty much stayed that way for our first 100 years. Using government power to force social change wasn't part of the Constitution and nobody thought it was. Then liberals wanted to fine tune things. The liberals won out. Some fine tuning was necessary, of course, but we've fine tuned ourselves into a mess. The liberals are still running the show.

The differences between conservative thinking and liberal thinking was brought home to me the other day. I was discussing the virtues of America with a friend. He looked around and proclaimed, "What a wonderful place we live in and it's all due to our government."

I looked around and proclaimed, "What a wonderful place we live in. And, we did it in spite of our government".

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 10:46 AM   #14  
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Bush is not a conservative. I never made that implication.

Besides, this question had nothing to do with Bush, and I answered the question.

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Well you stated that CONSERVATIVES fight for SMALLER GOVERNMENT......and since Bush is under the "Republican" ticket and Republicans are the supposed "conservatives" you speak of.... I just wanted to make sure you weren't confused with all things conservative/liberal, since Bush...the Republican Conservative, has GROWN govt'. at a faster rate than any president in 40 years.....Hence the question.

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All the while keeping the government small, and allowing the government to fund more important things that keep individuals safe from things that they cannot control, like a nuke sent from thousands of miles away.

Uhhmm....that funding of "keeping us safe" does not belong in the same sentence as- all the while keeping govt. small! It just don't work that way.

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Well you stated that CONSERVATIVES fight for SMALLER GOVERNMENT......and since Bush is under the "Republican" ticket and Republicans are the supposed "conservatives" you speak of.... I just wanted to make sure you weren't confused with all things conservative/liberal, since Bush...the Republican Conservative, has GROWN govt'. at a faster rate than any president in 40 years.....Hence the question.

Then you go on to say---

Uhhmm....that funding of "keeping us safe" does not belong in the same sentence as- all the while keeping govt. small! It just don't work that way.

There is a difference between conservative and republicans. Bush is not a conservative; for the last time. It appears that you are just looking for a way to link Bush so you can bash him.

Funding to keep us safe and some gov't programs, versus minimal dispersment of funds for safety, as well as a surplus of ridiculous government hand-out programs; conservatism versus liberalism; small gov't versus large.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 03:29 PM   #16  
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I'm not "trying" to "bash bush"......trust me. (Besides, theres a gazillion 'main focus' political outlets that do that!...or I could just turn on the news! lol) It's just interesting reading how people think/look at things.

So your trying to tell me that you don't "link" conservatives to the republicans and liberals to the democrats, eh? Something that been done for ohhhh.... a couple hundred years! By everybody except you, of course! lol!
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Conservatives and republicans have some similar views, but are two different factions. Democrats and liberals have some similar views, but are two different factions.

What I am saying is that it appeared to me that you were linking Bush to this question which has nothing to do with Bush; but I see now that you have detoured from that and instead are linking republicans to conservatives. You just make Bush an example of your point.

No, I do not link them together because they are different factions; yes, similar, but do have key differences. Bush/Reagan. Who is the conservative and who is the republican? See my point?

If that is what has been done for "a couple hundred years", then no wonder people in general don't understand political factions of the US, and their differences.

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