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Jul 30, 2004, 05:19 PM
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| | | Dual Citizenship GREECE and USA Hi I am a dual citizen of both Greece and the USA. I have a question? When traveling out and to the US I would use my US passport. I understand that part. But say I leave the USA with my USA passport. When I land for instance in Germany do I use my Greek passport or my US passport? And on the way back I understand I must use my Greek passport to leave Greece. But when I arrive to change planes in Germany Do I show my Greek or US passport?
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Jul 18, 2005, 10:25 AM
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| Same background (military dependent born overseas) Katie: My background is similar to yours and I have the similar questions: My parents are American and I was born in La Chapelle, France. Since my father was in the US military (Army), he had to fill out a Department of Defense (DOD) form declaring that I was "born of American parents overseas." I have copies of both my French birth certificate and DOD form having lost originals over 20 years ago. I do have a valid US passport.
I have two questions. Who would I speak to about getting original copies of my birth certificate? And, I would like to explore the possibility of obtaining French citizenship without jeopardizing my US citizenship. I have several former military-dependant friends who are in the same position. |
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Jul 18, 2005, 12:14 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by mfunnie Katie: My background is similar to yours and I have the similar questions: My parents are American and I was born in La Chapelle, France. Since my father was in the US military (Army), he had to fill out a Department of Defense (DOD) form declaring that I was "born of American parents overseas." I have copies of both my French birth certificate and DOD form having lost originals over 20 years ago. I do have a valid US passport.
I have two questions. Who would I speak to about getting original copies of my birth certificate? And, I would like to explore the possibility of obtaining French citizenship without jeopardizing my US citizenship. I have several former military-dependant friends who are in the same position. |
Again from my experience of another friend who was born in the U.S. and now has a french Passport., he simply went to the embassy with his mother and did it all there., you get into the embassies with a person who has a passport or national ID card of that country, after this you can solve all your problems.
Been that you have a dual national thing, especially U.S., expect hostility, france likes to also punish there citizens who live abroad for a long time,
i had a friend who had a hard time to get there french ID card again because they lost there origional one, French athorities wanted all these papers to prove she was her, origionals with special stamps, she waited over 8 months and they kept loosing her papers she said, later they told her it was incase she decided to go back to the states that they did this, so they could make sure she stays this time for good.
I know it does not sound logical, but that is how things get done in France.
Start with the embassey. |
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Aug 10, 2005, 02:20 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by susanwente Hi - Just wondering what the procedure would be to obtain Greek citizenship if my parents were never married but my father was born and raised in Greece?? How can I prove to the Greek government that he's really my father? Would he have to adopt me? He's not on my birth certificate because my mother was married to someone else when I was born...but I'm in the process of changing my name to my Greek father's name and will have my birth certificate officially changed by court order.
Thanks for any help!!!
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WOW, this is uncanny. Susanwente I am in the exact same situation! My father moved to Australia from Greece at age 18. At the age of 19 meets my mother, they "create" me, they don't get married, he runs off because he is immature, I am born with no father, mum gets married when I am 3 yrs old, step father does not bother to adopt me but rather just signs my birthcertificate so it looks like hes my real father (but hes not). I grow up. I have a crap relationship with my stepfather because I am not his son and because I'm a "foreign" looking kid. Now I'm all grown. I'm a Greek-Australian and visibly so, and have studied lots fo Greek and was so happy when we won Euro 2004, BUT.. I need a Greek passport!! What to do? It's so much damned trouble!!!!! Are you friends with your Greek father now? I know mine.. hes a bit dodgy, but I think he will sign my papers... any suggestions, help, assistance, advice, guidance is very appreciated. Also would like to hear from others in similar situations. Email:  |
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Aug 11, 2005, 03:30 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by simply_katie I was born in Greece. my father was in the air force at the time. I was wondering, since neither of my parents are greek, would i be able to get dual citizenship for just being born there? I have a greek birth certificate. Or how would i go about finding out if i could get dual citizenship. Any information would help. thank you. |
Hi, Katie,
I'm in the same situation--born in Greece to American parents (there on vacation) with a Greek birth certificate. I too would like to get dual citizenship. Have you had any luck getting information? Thanks!
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Sep 11, 2005, 12:14 PM
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| Greek Citizenship Hello My name's Andreas. My mother's father (my maternal grandfather) was born in Greece and moved here to the States with my grandmother (who's from Holland) in 1969. I was wondering if I'd be able to attain greek citizenship through my grandfather. I've read different requirements on different pages. I have my orthodox baptism certificate , my mom's birth certificate , my grandfather's birth certificate, my grandparent's marriage certificate , and of course my birth certificate. I wish to go study in Holland for University and an EU passport would deffinitely be to my advantage. Am I eligable for Greek citizenship? Please write back soon.
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Sep 11, 2005, 12:31 PM
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| hi
you need a living relative to present you in the greek embassy in order to get that citizenship, this applies for any country.
you have to walk in with your relative and there greek ID,
( a passport for sure or ID card )
then you can get it.
that is all that it will take.
the best website for greek embassy info in this is the UK greek site, the rest are hacked up fakes., greece is notorious for having lazy workers on hand.  |
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Sep 11, 2005, 12:37 PM
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| thank you So even though it's my grandfather instead of mother or father I am still eligible? Thank you for the information! Also I was wondering what you meant by go to the consulate with greek ID? Would that be a Greek passport or....? Also, Do I have to make the request in person or can I send it in the mail? How long is processising tie?
Thank you,
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Sep 11, 2005, 12:43 PM
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you can not enter any embasey with out a passport ior ID from that country, once you do with a relative, any, even cousin, as long as your names match or you can prove your relatives, then your in.
i said it before around here, a greek priest can do anything you want if he likes you.
but here, http://www.greekembassy.org.uk/pages...izenships.html
check this link out |
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Sep 14, 2005, 05:29 PM
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| Where to obtain copy of birth certificate Hello,
My husband was born in Greece (Thessoloniki) and needs a official or certified copy of his Greek birth certificate for immigration/visa purposes. We live in the United States right now.
Does anyone know where to obtain that and how long it takes?
TIA |
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Sep 14, 2005, 05:42 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by kanellt Hello,
My husband was born in Greece (Thessoloniki) and needs a official or certified copy of his Greek birth certificate for immigration/visa purposes. We live in the United States right now.
Does anyone know where to obtain that and how long it takes?
TIA |
Well , its funny you ask this
I was living in the U.S. most of my life and i went to the greek embassy in NY to get a passport, they of-course asked for living relatives.
I got the passport but then this scary question came up, MILITARY TIME!
And that is 2 years and from what i understand, the age max climbed up until the 40s now!
In order for me to avoid the military time i was told to get
1-a paper that stated i lived outside the U.S. so long and proved i resided in another country and my things and life is there.
2-a recent copy of my birth certificate from the town i was born in, and a relative or lawyer can do this for me.
Also, i can go to greece for 3 months but any more then this would mean been abducted by the Military.
So for your question, i had to get my official birth certificate, and it also had to be stamped recently and within 6 months!, this took my step dad about 15 minutes, he said he walked into the office and had a coffee with the guys there while they did it, and no one realy does this so its allways a surprise., but even if you have a birth certificate from a time ago, its not good according to the embassy, it needs a stamp, this was about 12 years ago, i imagine some things changed, but from talking to the people in my town they told me everyone is great, everything is the same, just new ID cards and passports that say EU on them now, birth certificates are the same, as well in France and many EU countries, a stamp to certifiy that they are recent is required..
This is the way i got it, and i wanted to tell you all this because from what you can see, you have to go get it from greece.
I say go to your embassey and ask, also contact relatives in greece if possible, also to note, a lawyer can do this for you in greece. |
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