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Dual Citizenship?

Asked May 30, 2003, 01:56 AM — 15 Answers
Ok, I've got a question.

My father is a natural born French citizen, living in the United States.

I am eighteen years old, born in the United States, my mother is a US Citizen, my father is a French citizen.

Would I qualify for dual citizenship because of the French with their "jus sanguinis" style policy?

If anyone can answer, I am curious to know. It's hard to really be sure, I can carry on most converstations in French, but I can barely read it, or write it, so the internet is not much help in my search. Most english sites aren't concerned with the nuances of French citizenship.

If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

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IndiaStarker Posts: 6, Reputation: 1
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Jun 13, 2004, 04:55 AM
Re: Dual Citizenship?
I just joined so I hope you already found your answer. You have the right to French citizenship, in fact it is automatic.

I quote SOS-Net Etrangers:
Si vous avez au moins un parent fran
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Jun 14, 2004, 05:59 AM
Re: Dual Citizenship?
Thank you for that wonderful information. I am having a problem with this site and this is the only way I can respond to you; hopefully it will post online!

Since my first posting, I have learned some new information. Perhaps, since you live in Paris, you could help me?

My mother was born in American Hospital in Paris in 1920 to (as you already read?) a French mother and American father. When he left France, he took my mother with him. I believe my grandparents divorced. My grandmother remained in her native France with one daughter and my mother came to USA with her American father. In order for him to take her with him, he had to register at the Embassy (which means that she was registered as an American citizen at the Embassy and she would have obtained a Consular Report of Birth Abroad.)

So, from what I understand, she was made a US citizen. From what I've been told, she may not have dual citizenship. Do you have any idea who I could contact there (who speaks English) who could help me?

I am also trying to get a copy of her birth certificate and the consular report of birth abroad; any ideas?

I would appreciate your help.

Thank you!
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Sep 1, 2004, 09:12 AM
Re: Dual Citizenship?
Hello Dragonfly,
I wasn't notified of your post for whatever reason. You may find the links I placed my other posts in the section US-France Dual Citizenship helpful.
Did you get what you need? If not, the following might help.

From the on line phone book (http://www.pagesjaunes.fr)

AMERICAN HOSPITAL OF PARIS
63 bd Victor Hugo 92200 Neuilly sur Seine
01 46 41 25 25

As you can see, today the American Hospital is in Neuilly s/Seine. You'll have to do some research to see where it was in 1920. The normal procedure to receive a birth certificate is to write a request to the town hall (mairie) where the birth took place. The section (rubrique) you want is

Le service de l'tat civil

If your mother was born in Neuilly S/ Seine then the complete instructions are found here:
http://www.ville-neuillysurseine.fr/.../document.html

Basically it says to send a self-addressed stamped enveloppe to
Mairie de Neuilly-sur-Seine - Etat civil
96 av Achille Peretti
92200 Neuilly sur Seine

(Again, address is from the on-line phone book.)

They also include a phone number if you are up to calling. (We are 6 hours ahead of EST, call in the am).

Request an "extrait d'acte de naissance"

Include, I quote:
Pices fournir
  • Indiquer date et lieu de naissance, nom, prnoms et nom et prnoms des parents (nom de jeune fille pour la mre).
  • Joindre la photocopie d'une pice d'identit et une enveloppe timbre pour la rponse.
I translate:
  • Date and place of birth, last name and given names and last names and given names of the parents, specifying the maiden name for the mother.
  • A photocopy of your ID (a passport would be good -- driver's licences are not really considered ID here) and a self-addressed stamped enveloppe. (That might be the trickiest part--don't know how you'll manage it. Ask your post office? Need a 0.90 euro stamp.)

Obviously you should specify that you are the daughter. Basically something like the following should be fine.
Best regards,
India.



Mairie de Neuilly-sur-Seine - Etat civil
96 av Achille Peretti
92200 Neuilly sur Seine
1 septembre 2004
City, state, USA

Monsieur, Madame,

Je vous demande un extrait d'acte de naissance de ma mre dcde.

Ne Neuilly sur Seine, le <day> <month> <year>.

De pre :

<last name in caps> <first and middle names>

Et mre :

<maiden name in caps> <fist and middle names>

Je vous remercie d'avance de votre attention. Veuillez agrer, Monsieur, Madame, mes salutations distingues.

your name
Your signature

Ci-jointe : photocopie de mon passeport
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Nov 16, 2004, 10:46 AM
French or UK citizen?
Hi
Am an Indian citizen, studying in the UK. I have a French boyfriend. If we got married here in the UK, what does that make me, a UK or French citizen? Please help as we plan to get married this christmas.
Thanks!
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Dec 8, 2004, 01:56 PM
Dear Gr8,

You are niether a UK or French citizen when you get married, however, if you get married to a French citizen(your boyfriend, I assume he is a French citizen), then you may apply to become a French citizen, you must be married for 12 months before you can apply. I hope this helps. Best luck with your wedding

-Ben
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Feb 22, 2005, 10:51 AM
Anyone applied as a spouse for French citizenship?
I'm trying to find someone who has been through this process who can tell me their experience. I applied for French citizenship at a French embassy in the US 16 months ago. After a year, I received a letter requesting my parents' birth certificates and marriage certificate, which I sent. Then I received a print out of information about me (date of birth, parents info, spuse, etc.) to sign and return, which I did. What I can't figure out is what the hell happens next, or how long this whole thing is likely to take. Would be grateful to hear anyone else's story. Thanks.
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Apr 11, 2005, 02:02 PM
Citizenship and draft
I just joined so I don't know how to post a question other than reply to thread. I have three questions. I am a "Franaise d'origine" (French citizen) married to an American. I have two children.
1) My daughter Michelle will be 18 this Thursday. She and my son are both on my passport for now. If she get her own French passport, does she become only a French citizen or does she automatically have dual citizenship. If she does have dual citizenship, what are the consequence/liabilities re social security, taxes, etc... In both countries?
2) My son is 16 and just received a letter from the French Consulate in Atlanta for an orientation session to register for military service in France. I know he does not want to do that. I don't want him to have anything to do with guns or the army either. Does that mean he needs to relinquish his French citizenship? If so, how do you go about it?
3) Several people have told me that I needed to check my status with Social Security. They said that as a non-US citizen, I might not be able to collect when I retire and that I might have problems with inheritance if my husband were to die. I am totally in the dark about that. I have been paying taxes for years and have never worked in France as I married while still in college.
Does anyone have answers to all these questions?
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Aug 31, 2005, 09:41 PM
Help..need to get my original birth certificate but dont speak french!!!
I was born at the American Hospital in Neuilly sur Seine in 1978.
I do not have a copy of my original birth certificate. What I do have is a photo copy AND IT IS IN FRENCH, which is useless to me because I now live in Los Angeles.
I am applying for my green card as I married an american and need to furnish my ORIGINAL birth certificate.
How do I go about getting this since
1. I do not speak french so calling would be quite difficult
2. I live in America...
3. I just have no idea who to even call..

Please please help me.

Thanks,
Giselle
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Sep 28, 2005, 03:40 AM
Little help here
I was born in france in 1984 and I have been trying to find out how/if I could obtain a french passport so if there is anyone out there who can help me, you help will be really appreciated. Thanks
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