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Old Feb 11, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Did you vote for Bush?

If you voted for Bush, do you regret it now? If so why? or why not?
I'm curious as a Canadian, seeing what I have seen from here since 2000, I have always wondered why Americans voted for him, and if the majority regret it now.

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Old Feb 13, 2008, 08:32 PM   #21  
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I voted for GWB twice. Not embarrassed nor do I regret it. Funny how time makes memories selective. When Reagan was in people complained constantly - now look - people want a resurrected Reagan. I never did vote for RR - I voted Democrat that time and have regretted that!

No matter who is running and what promises are made - people forget there is a Congress to contend with. You want to complain about the War in Iraq? Why were the funds allocated then? Did your Congressman have the backbone to vote no?
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Ronald Reagan was a terrible President. I think it was Carter before him who put solar panels up on the white house. Regan came in and had them taken off, I believe George Bush SR was vice president at the time. Imagine how things would be if Carters ideals were not dismissed for oil revenue. President ford also took the initiative and made it so cars were to be built more fuel efficient, I believe Carter came to office and continued to enforce that law. Some where in Reagan's years it all went under the carpet. Carter Tried To Stop Bush's Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 12:40 AM   #22  
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Chery, I am always eager to hear your point of you and you are always full of good advice and compassion. With that being said, I respectfully disagree with your point about no politician has the ability to change global warming, on a few different levels. First, I think bringing awareness to any issue creates an opportunity for change, for any subject. Not one single leader can be the master of all change or destruction, but they do have a responsibility to do THEIR PART.. I would never make an assumption that Bush or anyone else alone, could prevent war or stop global warming, pollution or hunger. HOWEVER, the leaders that we elect do have to recognize their accountability in paying attention to these issues and creating world alliances to reinforce the changes or policies to create a different and better future for all. I don't think that has been a priority of this administration, which is why our allies have decreased dramatically in numbers. Third world countries have made drastic changes to using alternative types of energy. IT is possible. Although I do happen to think some of global warming may have to do with evolution, but it isn't the sole reason. We as a nation are the most wasteful country on earth, of fossil fuels and every other source of energy that we use. WE have the ability to send people to outer space, so why can't we change policies and everyday habits to help clean our air and protect our ozone layer? That doesn't seem too far fetched for any leader, or citizen for that matter.

YEs, it does come to down to electing leaders that have our best interests at heart. This is why a Constitution was created, to enforce the people's will. The rights of people in this country have been limited in several ways due to the policies and changes put in place by our current administration and with the APPROVAL of President Bush.

Moreover, war has been going on since the beginning of time and probably will always exist, this doesn't mean that the rules of engagement should be based on lies and half truths. I think every leader is somewhat of an ego maniac and many of them are corrupt and self serving. THis doesn't mean that we shouldn't still hold them up to the standard of honesty and true public service. Just because we haven't cured diseases, whether mental or physical, doesn't mean we stop fighting the fight. One person cannot achieve that goal, but in numbers, more things are possible. This is how grass movements begin.

Al Gore wasn't the best candidate but he was the one at the time that I thought had my interests at heart. I would have voted for someone else if there had been more options to choose from. This isn't a matter of being to the left or to the right, it has to do with believing in what our country stands for and that the rights of the people are being preserved and protected. This is so that there isn't a usurp of powers between the branches of government. I didn't feel that happened during the past eight years and I never trusted his interests.

It starts with each individual, caring and being interested in what is going on. Starting with mothers, who since biblical times have rallied together to fight and defend for what they believe in. They have changed many things along the way in history. Before Women's rights, or rights for minorities, or desegregation, people came together to create change. Maybe we should start putting the power back in the people's hands and stop waiting for the next ego maniac to change the world.
By the way, I am thankful for every moment you are on this earth Chery. You have always been kind and loving and a very dear friend. I appreciate the opportunity to share my thoughts with you and everyone else listening. Peace be with you.. my friend.
Couldn't rate you again love, but I know what you mean. You still believe in the basic right to life, liberty and persuit of happiness for all. Throughout history people have been lured with this, given a little of that 'lollipop' but then the mongers have always found a reason to justify taking it away again bit by bit - or choosing who 'deserves' these rights. In my opinion, we are all rallied with lillipops during voting time - then the promises deminish until we are needed again - and not the other way around. That sounds greedy to me. IMO, those greedy with power can be currupted at any time and I don't trust any of them - that's why I generally stay out of politcal issues.
I have followed debates and have had my hopes raised a few times at several decades, but something always happens to fall apart in the end.
Yes, my dear friend, people do make a difference and I sincerely hope that they will get the chance to do so before it is too late to repair the damage worldwide.

I, for one, no longer have the strength to fight a loosing battle. Maybe the next generation will be wiser and stronger - I sure hope so.
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 06:29 AM   #23  
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I did not vote for President Bush in 2000 but I was proud to do so in 2004. Don't let public opinion fool you . Harry Truman left office with a lower approval rating than President Bush will . But history now regards his Presidency with high regard.

I see alot of comparisons between the two as I have stated elsewhere on this site. Like Truman he has had to face a new threat .And like Truman he has set the template on how to deal with the threat in the future. Oh;sure the Bush Doctrine will evolve like the Truman Doctrine did ;but those who follow him will have pretty much follow his blue print.
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'“The [Obama] campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause—other than an amorphous desire for change—the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is.”' tomder55


Interesting quote on your signature, tomder; reminds me of the Ross Perot campaign which begot Clinton (both elections in 1992 & 1996); perhaps this rehash of personality won't be as devastating.
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If you like that you'll love this Opinion Journal editorial

Wonder Land - WSJ.com

But I think Victor Davis Hanson (as he so often does ) nailed it when he compares Obama to the fictional candidate that Robert Redford played in the movie "The Candidate" !

'The candidate' - starring Barack Obama

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Old Feb 14, 2008, 05:43 PM   #26  
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Plenty of people did vote for Bush, apparently. However, many did so simply because they didn't want Gore or Kerry in office. It seems to me we have been getting worse candidates on the ballot for each election, which means we vote 'against' someone rather than 'for' the other. If someone not in the status quo attempts a run to get in the ring, other politicians and the press push him right out so no one knows he's even there, let alone what he stands for. The politicians already in office direct who will be appropriate & lucky voters get to choose between those few.

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It appears that you are the most level headed thinker here.

I came to this forum to get answers as to why a black man and a woman are being allowed to vote.

"Allowed" was my big question. Apparently, the media and other politicians do actually control who gets to be president and not actually the voters as we think.


Thank you for the best answer yet

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Chery agrees: Don't forget those big money mongers who rule in the background... so right. We have been taken for fools for so long throughout history.
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It appears that you are the most level headed thinker here.

I came to this forum to get answers as to why a black man and a woman are being allowed to vote.

"Allowed" was my big question. Apparently, the media and other politicians do actually control who gets to be president and not actually the voters as we think.


Thank you for the best answer yet
And thank you for being so kind.
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It's not out of kindess that I speak but from truth.

I had excellent teachers in the 70s who made excellent predictions.

One of my high school teachers Mr. T predicted that someday we were going to have a black president during a time when there are a lot of problems so that those problems can be blamed on him or to get him stuck with the problems something to that affect.

He also made it very clear to us that we don't pick the president like we think.

GLAD I STUCK AROUND HERE LONG ENOUGH TO HEAR YOUR OPINION. THANKS AGAIN.
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Black and female presidents. Dana2007 writes: "my high school teachers Mr. T predicted that someday we were going to have a black president". It could be Condaleeza Rice, or someone else. My own thought has been, it will not be a liberal/fascist. Margaret Thatcher was first in GB, and I believe it will take that kind of person to be first in the US. I have never believed Hillary would be elected, and I don't believe Obama will either, but that is just me.
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