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If you voted for Bush, do you regret it now? If so why? or why not?
I'm curious as a Canadian, seeing what I have seen from here since 2000, I have always wondered why Americans voted for him, and if the majority regret it now.
Voted for him, and looking at who is the most likely people that are going to be in the race, wish he could run again, since he would not be as bad as what it looks like we may get ( from either side)
WOW... Thanks for all of the answers. It does seem that I'm getting responses that are a little one sided though. I'm going to assume some people are maybe reluctant to post in fear of debate and reds. Maybe Fr_Chuck could move this question to a discussion rather than a Q&A? Anyways, I have certainly not been educated in American politics through the mainstream media alone, and in fact I have had the luxury of having close friends who are in political sciences, and other positions of vast political knowledge. I have watched too many documentaries and read too many facts to simply ignore the fact that Americans (& the rest of the world) have been lied to countless times by a government that far too often has an ulterior motive.
It always seems to me that when this topic comes up, Bush voters seem to be the ones who are more swayed by the main stream media. Its the same in Canada, 6:00pm news, local newspapers are almost every voters main information source of their decision making.
I have dealings with an American businessman who I consider to be very intelligent and my friend. He has voted for Bush since the first term, he has no regrets and stands by his decision full heartedly. I've asked him why he voted for Bush and he says it is because he liked his father. When I have asked him about Iraq and WMDs and other proven catastrophic misleads by the GWB government, he tends to use the " No government is perfect " saying. I believe Cheney, Rumsfeld & Bush are war criminals and am surprised that so many Americans disagree.War Crimes indictment against George W. BushTokyo War Crimes indictment against George W. Bush
The link I have posted is a little old. The grass is not much greener in Canada, as our leaders have come to kiss American a*s, our media makes fun of Stephen Harper and still we vote for him. To anyone who said "Gore is one of the dumbest politicians out there", I would like to hear why?
second time i almost puked walking out of the booth, but i couldnt vote for kerry and i thought he should have a chance to clean up the iraq mess.
am i sorry? well... im sorry for some things. im sorry he ever stepped foot in iraq. i didnt like the idea when everyone, including dems, thought there were WMD's. idiot. im sorry the dems couldnt prop up a candidate with half a backbone or clue. im sorry that the prez i voted for is an arrogant arse with no sense of limits of power, and im sorry that neither side seems interested in fixing the problems this country really faces, such as the deficit, looming medical care costs, and our selling our country to foreign interests day after day.
mostly im sorry my wife is out of town. im bored and grumpy.
[quote=Greg Quinn]It always seems to me that when this topic comes up, Bush voters seem to be the ones who are more swayed by the main stream media. Its the same in Canada, 6:00pm news, local newspapers are almost every voters main information source of their decision making.
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I didn't vote for President Bush. So, it's not a matter of being swayed.
Whether someone was born with a silver spoon in their mouth, isn't the issue. I don't know how someone who brought the issue of global warming to the forefront of politics and created national interest based on his findings could be the dumbest man to walk on earth. If Bush had done just ONE THING to help the environment, or even acknowledge there was global warming (up until election year) I might have had more faith.. but people who did have faith in him eight years ago realize it has been mostly shattered by lies and deceit. This administration is beyond dumb, it has blood on its hands all the while..looking at America continuing to make us think, all thats been done is for the good of our people.
Shattered..I don't think any politician can change or correct the issue of global warming or the weather - it's just another excuse for raising energy taxes and helping the rich get richer.
Politics or no, I usually stay out of it. The world has overall some miserable leaders with motives of their own and so does the media. MONEY is the leader - no matter how you look at it.
But blaming people for global warming is a bit crazy, just like blaming the dinos for their big farts to enhance their own destruction, or a meteor.
What is happening to the world economy and the world weather, continental shifting, polar caps melting - all are different.
Evolution has a lot to do with the latter, and the economic part is due to politicians all over who are owned by money monger companies who want to get richer. One thing they are forgetting though is that they cannot stop a mountain from falling apart, a volcano from erupting and they certainly cannot eat money when there is no more food and too many mouths to feed. That is why they and the media are dictating the real issues to divert the people and placate them with lies.
That is one reason I am glad that I will only have a short time left on this globe, and feel sorry for those family and friends I leave behind.
The truth is that the entire world is changing and we will have to adjust and evolve with it or suffer our own demise.
As far as wars - there has alway been blood spilt for religion or for money and as long as there are more than two humans left, it will continue, sorry to say.
Anyone who thinks that evolution has stopped in this century just because we like it the way it is now is not thinking reasonable and this globe will go through it's growing pains no matter which politician is voted for.
The only thing we can hope for are politicians who care for their own people - which is a rare thing in itself.
I voted for the moron the first time. Now I realize that there is a new world order that is trying to enslave the entire world in their financial illusion that makes us all completely dependant upon the government bankers. We the people are the only true "wealth" of any country. The Bush's and the rest of them have been living off our productiveness all their lives and will continue to do so if we allow it. They steal our labor through inflation and through income taxes. They contribute nothing but phoney laws written on worthless paper. They cannot steal my power and they don't scare me with all this terrorist crap. They created it in the first place. I will not live in fear. I do not need the government to protect me or tell me how to live. I will write in Ron Paul next election and let the chips fall where they may. It has already been decided any way. Our government has been hijacked from the inside and if you think your opinion matters to them then you need to watch the Wizard of Oz one more time. If you think I am a radical crazy, I say fine. I am. You will see the new world order create a one world government in your life time. You will be micro chipped within 10 years. If you don't do exactly as they say, they will just turn your chip off and you will be out of the consumer loop. Good luck with that. Just remember, you were warned.
Shattered..I don't think any politician can change or correct the issue of global warming or the weather - it's just another excuse for raising energy taxes and helping the rich get richer.
Politics or no, I usually stay out of it. The world has overall some miserable leaders with motives of their own and so does the media. MONEY is the leader - no matter how you look at it.
But blaming people for global warming is a bit crazy, just like blaming the dinos for their big farts to enhance their own destruction, or a meteor.
What is happening to the world economy and the world weather, continental shifting, polar caps melting - all are different.
Evolution has a lot to do with the latter, and the economic part is due to politicians all over who are owned by money monger companies who want to get richer. One thing they are forgetting though is that they cannot stop a mountain from falling apart, a volcano from erupting and they certainly cannot eat money when there is no more food and too many mouths to feed. That is why they and the media are dictating the real issues to divert the people and placate them with lies.
That is one reason I am glad that I will only have a short time left on this globe, and feel sorry for those family and friends I leave behind.
The truth is that the entire world is changing and we will have to adjust and evolve with it or suffer our own demise.
As far as wars - there has alway been blood spilt for religion or for money and as long as there are more than two humans left, it will continue, sorry to say.
Anyone who thinks that evolution has stopped in this century just because we like it the way it is now is not thinking reasonable and this globe will go through it's growing pains no matter which politician is voted for.
The only thing we can hope for are politicians who care for their own people - which is a rare thing in itself.
Chery, Chery, Chery, you just made me tingle all over and gave me one hell of a warm and fuzzy feeling! You truely are wise and wonderful and you are ready to move on to bigger and better things my dear. Your end here is just the beginning of far bigger and better things indeed. Thank you Chery.
Chery, I am always eager to hear your point of you and you are always full of good advice and compassion. With that being said, I respectfully disagree with your point about no politician has the ability to change global warming, on a few different levels. First, I think bringing awareness to any issue creates an opportunity for change, for any subject. Not one single leader can be the master of all change or destruction, but they do have a responsibility to do THEIR PART.. I would never make an assumption that Bush or anyone else alone, could prevent war or stop global warming, pollution or hunger. HOWEVER, the leaders that we elect do have to recognize their accountability in paying attention to these issues and creating world alliances to reinforce the changes or policies to create a different and better future for all. I don't think that has been a priority of this administration, which is why our allies have decreased dramatically in numbers. Third world countries have made drastic changes to using alternative types of energy. IT is possible. Although I do happen to think some of global warming may have to do with evolution, but it isn't the sole reason. We as a nation are the most wasteful country on earth, of fossil fuels and every other source of energy that we use. WE have the ability to send people to outer space, so why can't we change policies and everyday habits to help clean our air and protect our ozone layer? That doesn't seem too far fetched for any leader, or citizen for that matter.
YEs, it does come to down to electing leaders that have our best interests at heart. This is why a Constitution was created, to enforce the people's will. The rights of people in this country have been limited in several ways due to the policies and changes put in place by our current administration and with the APPROVAL of President Bush.
Moreover, war has been going on since the beginning of time and probably will always exist, this doesn't mean that the rules of engagement should be based on lies and half truths. I think every leader is somewhat of an ego maniac and many of them are corrupt and self serving. THis doesn't mean that we shouldn't still hold them up to the standard of honesty and true public service. Just because we haven't cured diseases, whether mental or physical, doesn't mean we stop fighting the fight. One person cannot achieve that goal, but in numbers, more things are possible. This is how grass movements begin.
Al Gore wasn't the best candidate but he was the one at the time that I thought had my interests at heart. I would have voted for someone else if there had been more options to choose from. This isn't a matter of being to the left or to the right, it has to do with believing in what our country stands for and that the rights of the people are being preserved and protected. This is so that there isn't a usurp of powers between the branches of government. I didn't feel that happened during the past eight years and I never trusted his interests.
It starts with each individual, caring and being interested in what is going on. Starting with mothers, who since biblical times have rallied together to fight and defend for what they believe in. They have changed many things along the way in history. Before Women's rights, or rights for minorities, or desegregation, people came together to create change. Maybe we should start putting the power back in the people's hands and stop waiting for the next ego maniac to change the world.
By the way, I am thankful for every moment you are on this earth Chery. You have always been kind and loving and a very dear friend. I appreciate the opportunity to share my thoughts with you and everyone else listening. Peace be with you.. my friend.
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