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Old Jul 7, 2009, 02:02 PM
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is there a test

is there an online test that i can have my daughter take for free to give me an idea if she is gifted or not?

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Old Jul 7, 2009, 03:08 PM   #11  
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That is something you discuss with the school and teachers.
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Old Jul 7, 2009, 05:24 PM   #12  
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You're concerned and want the best. Feed her as fast as she can soak it up.
Don't know where you will get the energy to keep up, but try.
Some have had good Luck with "Professionals"?, sounds expensive. Most claimed "Professionals" are IDIOTS. If you have excessive money, pay them.
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You're concerned and want the best. Feed her as fast as she can soak it up.
Don't know where you will get the energy to keep up, but try.
Some have had good Luck with "Professionals"?, sounds expensive. Most claimed "Professionals" are IDIOTS. If you have excessive money, pay them.
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I tend to disagree with that. Not about the professionals, but about the "feed her as fast as she can soak it up".

There is so much pressure on kids today. Excel, excel, excel. Be the best. What happened to letting kids be kids? What happened to accepting them the way they are?

I have a friend that is determined to force her child into being gifted. Her daughers accomplishments are all she talks about. They spend every night working on reading, writing, math, etc. Not just her homework (which is necessary) but other work, just to make her the smartest, the best.

Whatever extra time she has is spent doing extracurricular activities. Sports, ballet, music lessons etc. etc. There isn't one night a week or weekend that this child has free.

In the summer she's sent to camps. Learning camps. Sports camps. She hates it. In fact, now that she's 10 she's started rebelling. She refuses to go. Her grades have dropped. It's a constant fight because mom wants what mom wants, screw the child and her right to a childhood.

My daughter qualifies for the gifted program at school. The fact that there even is such a program for a 6 year old disturbs me.

So what if she can read, write, do math in her head? She's lucky, she picks things up easily, she never forgets anything she learns. Does that make her better? Gifted?

She's a kid. A child. That's what she needs to work on. Yes, she does her homework. Yes, I encourage her to do her best. If I notice she's spending too much time inside buried in a book, I send her outside to be a kid.

Gifted, not gifted, normal, learning disabled. They're kids. It's not okay to label them, to put them into categories. It's a set up for failure, not only for them, but for everyone else.

Just let her be a kid. Give her the tools she needs, by all means, but don't push her.

Before you know it she'll be grown.

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Jesushelper76 agrees: Very well said. I agree 100 percent with everything. Children needs to be allowed to be kids.
artlady agrees: I see so many kids who are suffering from anxiety and depression simply because the parents have this type of adgenda.Kids first ,you are spot on!
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I tend to disagree with that. Not about the professionals, but about the "feed her as fast as she can soak it up".

There is so much pressure on kids today. Excel, excel, excel. Be the best. What happened to letting kids be kids? What happened to accepting them the way they are?

I have a friend that is determined to force her child into being gifted. Her daughers accomplishments are all she talks about. They spend every night working on reading, writing, math, etc. Not just her homework (which is necessary) but other work, just to make her the smartest, the best.

Whatever extra time she has is spent doing extracurricular activities. Sports, ballet, music lessons etc. etc. There isn't one night a week or weekend that this child has free.

In the summer she's sent to camps. Learning camps. Sports camps. She hates it. In fact, now that she's 10 she's started rebelling. She refuses to go. Her grades have dropped. It's a constant fight because mom wants what mom wants, screw the child and her right to a childhood.

My daughter qualifies for the gifted program at school. The fact that there even is such a program for a 6 year old disturbs me.

So what if she can read, write, do math in her head? She's lucky, she picks things up easily, she never forgets anything she learns. Does that make her better? Gifted?

She's a kid. A child. That's what she needs to work on. Yes, she does her homework. Yes, I encourage her to do her best. If I notice she's spending too much time inside buried in a book, I send her outside to be a kid.

Gifted, not gifted, normal, learning disabled. They're kids. It's not okay to label them, to put them into categories. It's a set up for failure, not only for them, but for everyone else.

Just let her be a kid. Give her the tools she needs, by all means, but don't push her.

Before you know it she'll be grown.
I disagree with you, You missunderstood me, I don't push her, I try to keep up with her. Like I said, I provide the tools, and she can use at her pace, whichever direction she chooses, and I understand it will change, over and over, i WILL adapt, and TRY to kep up, She feels NO PRESSURE, she enjoys life as a kid.
If you disagree, it is because you don't understand.
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I disagree with you, You missunderstood me, I don't push her, I try to keep up with her. Like I said, I provide the tools, and she can use at her pace, whichever direction she chooses, and I understand it will change, over and over, i WILL adapt, and TRY to kep up, She feels NO PRESSURE.
Then I misunderstood.

I see too many parents pushing their children to succeed. Children don't need to push themselves, they need to enjoy their childhood. If not, then you get adults that resent their parents, resent the childhood they missed out on.

You're only a child once. My belief is to let the child be a child.

Does that mean that I don't teach? Don't help? No. I do homework with my children every day. My son has ADHD, everything he does, everything he learns, it's a gift. This year he went on medication, I was terrified. Not ritalin, a mild drug, one that won't and doesn't change who he is, it just helps him focus. There's a huge change in him, for the better. He's finally understanding the things that were so difficult for him to grasp. Homework is no longer a battle, but a joy.

Then there's my daughter. She read at the age of 2. She's always been quick. She learns everything immediately. There's a 4 year age difference between her and her brother. He was devastated. Everything he's worked so hard to gain comes easy to his little sister. Everything he works so hard for, she takes for granted.

So, do I push my gifted child? Do I sit each day with her pouring information into her brain because I know she'll soak it up? Or do I treat them both as children? Equals?

It's a juggling act. How to help one and not stifle the other.

Am I only making sense to me?

Perhaps it's not something you can understand unless you've lived it, or are living it.

All I know is, I have two happy children. Two smart children. Two children that are children. Two children that teach me things every single day. The gift of the first snow fall, the gift of innocence. I'm not in any hurry to take that away. They have the rest of their lives to push themselves, to succeed, to rise above. Right now, they're children. That's the best gift I can give them.

That's all I can ask for. It's all I want or need.
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You're doing fine. In your case, I would provide for both as fast as they can go in their ways. They're 2 different people. I don't push her, I try to keep her supplied.
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very good points alty! and one that i didnt consider is the pressure it would put on her in the future. sure she will enjoy it now, but later on, if it starts getting harder, she will still feel like she needs to do it perfectly and if she cant, she will feel like a failier.

its all so confusing. im gonna go with joe on this one and let the schools decide :P
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Need to be proactive. Make sure you talk with the teachers and school about it. I am sure you already have parent teacher interviews and most teachers will tell you the strengths and the weaknesses of the child.

I think you are doing the right thing Jennie. It is the teachers and schools that will help in making these decisions.
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yes, we have a meet the teachers night a week before school starts. i will make sure to tell them. i am already going to request her speech be tested right away

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My daughter is 12, and ever since she was 3, she has been interested in the Performing Arts. It started out with the little ballet tutus, then she joined a drama class, and then a singing class. She has always been the average child in her acdemic subjects, no better than anyone else, yet no worse. Our family are quite well-off, so I put her and her brother into a private school. Her best academic subject is definitely English, and this goes hand in hand with her Drama. Her best vocational subject is by far Drama. In January, she successfully auditioned for Tring Park, a school especially for gifted children in the genre of Performing Arts. She is going there in September for Year 8 (8th Grade) What I did, was I rang up the school and I asked them if there was any way in proving that my daughter had an amazing talent in the Performing Arts, and they said to audition and that the judges would only choose the best. I was so pleased when we got the letter saying that she had won a place. I thought I was being biased, but I then realised that I wasnt and that I was right all along.

I think you should definitely ring up a private tutor, and ask them for advice for your child, I know that for children who are very talented in the educational side, you can have tests or Science, Maths and English.
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