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Asked May 12, 2009, 12:15 PM — 424 Answers
Curiosity getting the better of me, I decided to try growing an upside down tomato plant, and being frugal, I made a planter out of a five gallon bucket It isn't as fancy, but why spend $20 if you have the parts?.

It has been outside for two weeks now, and is getting stronger, but there is one thing that I noticed; The main stem/stalk/trunk of the plant has started growing up, and I am assuming that after it sets fruit and they begin to grow, the stalk will grow downwards.

Which leads me to this thought/questions:
If the stalk is growing up, even though it is facing down, are the roots growing down, even though they are facing up? Sounds almost like a paradox.

Would this add stress to the plant?

I also decided to put it up on an old pool deck, so if it starts to really grow I'll have enough support to just drape, and tie it around the deck.

As an ongoing project I'll update on an irregular schedule, maybe every two weeks.

Subject is a "Better Boy" started 042809........KUXJ

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Jul 10, 2009, 08:47 AM
Ohh no my link..where did my link go... *pokes forum* did the forum eat my link lol
Coprinoid Mushrooms: The Inky Caps (MushroomExpert.Com) here it is ..
I didn't find anything about toxins though so I wouldn't eat it lol *no I didn't think you would* it may also have subspecies of the same kind of mushroom... After checking yours out let me know what you think if not I can keep searching for you
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Jul 10, 2009, 09:02 AM
Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages?
I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!
Have grown fields full of tomato plants and I too saw that commercial and thought, I could do that, just like you did.

Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off of there....

Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.

Also folks be careful what kind of bucket you use, best to start out with a brand new one to avoid any kind of plant diseases.

In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
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Jul 10, 2009, 09:19 AM
Currently, many species of mushrooms, which have been used in Asian folk medicine for thousands of years, are under intense study by ethnobotanists and medical researchers. Maitake, shiitake, Agaricus blazei, chaga, and reishi are prominent among those being researched for potential anti-cancer, anti-viral, and immune system-enhancing properties.

In Europe and Japan, Polysaccharide-K (brand name Krestin), a chemical derived from Trametes versicolor, is an approved adjuvant for cancer therapy.[15][16] The shiitake mushroom is a source of lentinan, a beta-glucan which is also approved in various countries including Japan, as an adjuvant for cancer therapy.[17][18][19]

In 2009, a case-control study of the eating habits of 2,018 woman, revealed that women who consumed mushrooms had an approximately 50% lower incidence of breast cancer. Women who consumed mushrooms and green tea had a 90% lower incidence of breast cancer.[20] Human clinical studies are currently being conducted in the United States to investigate if the common table mushroom can limit breast cancer.[21] The reason scientists believe the table mushroom may inhibit breast cancer is due to the fact it possess anti-aromatase activity[22][23] (and therefore possible anti-estrogen activity in the human body) as well as immune system enhancing properties.[24][25]

The City of Hope National Medical Center is currently conducting clinical trials to determine the anti-cancer effects of the shiitake mushroom.[26]

Oyster mushrooms are a natural source of lovastatin, a widely prescribed statin drug used to lower cholesterol.[27]

Wikipedia (taken from) I thought this was intresting....

George.. Yes there are still people reading it after 22 pages . Well I never thought about that.... And yes the commercial does show poor hanging tequniques... I wonder if people have gotten hurt yet or not.
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Jul 10, 2009, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by George Leigh View Post
Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages?
I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!

Maybe you should start a thread on roses? I would be very interested, I have so many.

Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off of there....

I have had to put extra support on my fence and still worry about pulling the fence down.

Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.

Maybe something for next year, if I survive this year.

In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
I have had various results, I have one in the ground now that is a baby and the others in pots I am tieing back.
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#215

Jul 10, 2009, 07:01 PM
Greetings fellow Botanists

Edition II

Edition I of, “Links for UDT Thread”
Page 2 to 16 Post 154
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-16.html

Page Seventeen ~ 17:
Post 164:
http://www.answers.com/library/Dicti...ers Dictionary
Plant Answers
A FEMALE-STERILE MUTANT IN THE TOMATO -- HONMA and PHATAK 55 (3): 143 -- Journal of Heredity
Wiley InterScience

Post 170:
Green Fruit Disorders - Tomato Problem Solver | Aggie Horticulture

Page Eighteen ~ 18:
Post 171:
It's Fiesta Time

Post 175:
Wild About Mushrooms: Morels

“Nested Quotes” an example is in/on UDT Page 17 ~ Post 163
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-17.html

Page Nineteen ~ 19:
Post 186: You can read 'bout it here: NASA - The Mars Hoax Goes Viral snopes.com: Mars Close to Earth
SPACE.com -- Mars Hoax Circulates: 'Big as the Moon!'
It's at the bottom here: NASA - Science@NASA Mars in August 2009
For Satellite Observation Heavens-Above Home Page

Post 188: Picture of Just Dahlia's first Tom.
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-19.html

Page Twenty ~ 20:
Post 193:The end of the Mayan Calendar 12-21-2012
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...dar 12-21-2012

Post 198: Prehistoric Intensive Agriculture in the Mayan Lowlands -- Turner 185 (4146): 118 -- Science
Mayan agriculture - Google Search

Post 200: Disease Management in Home-Grown Tomatoes

Page Twenty One ~ 21:
Post 201: Annual plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Post 204: Fungi world photo selection 2 Hort Blog

Post 205: http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi206L.jpg (mature mushroom)
http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi234L.jpg (young mushroom) .

Post 206: Mayan glyphs - Google Search
The Greeks also: Greek fire - Wikipedia

Post 209: Jaris' Dreamspell Page 5

Page Twenty Two ~ 22:
Post 211: Coprinoid Mushrooms: The Inky Caps (MushroomExpert.Com)

Post 215
Edition II of, “Links for UDT Thread” Page 17 to 22
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-22.html

Post 216
A dinner plate Dahlia
Page 18 post 180 http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-18.html

What does dirt weigh?
http://www.convert-me.com/bb_en/viewtopic.php?p=6018

That's it for now......If anyone finds a typo, let me know and
I'll make reference to it in the next edition.
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#216

Jul 11, 2009, 04:50 AM
Hi! George Leigh, and Welcome to UDT

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Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages? I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!
Sure George, any and all contributions are greatly appreciated. I wanted to respond sooner, but was busy with the nftb newsletter, and updating the UDT links. 22 Pages? Never in my wildest dreams. If you haven't, take some time to look back.

The idea that our Roving Botanist, Dr. Just Dahlia phd.udt., has 'bout starting your own thread on roses sounds like a wonderful idea!

Her pix on page 18 post 180 http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-18.html a dinner plate Dahlia still leaves me speechless, For some reason I started hearing Peruvian Flute Music and still do when I view it. (My apologies for not complimenting you sooner Dr. D..."Ouch" wadya do that for?)

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Have grown fields full of tomato plants and I too saw that commercial and thought, I could do that, just like you did. Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off of there....
I'm estimating my UDT weighed in at 80lbs when I hung it Convert-Me.Com - online units conversion :: View topic - Weight of Dirt (didn't feel like a bag of Cment) one reason I used 1.5” bar stock.
From past experience I knew the bucket handle would probably not last, that's why I added the 12/3 romex. The camera was acting up when I took the pix, but the roladex says its on page 12 post 112 http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/gardeni...352932-12.html


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Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.
Looks like an easier way to get started, do you think the bucket should have a lid to keep the dirt in or would it cake, and stay in by itself?

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Also folks be careful what kind of bucket you use, best to start out with a brand new one to avoid any kind of plant diseases.
That's sage advice!

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In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
I can't shake the notion “The larger the container, the bigger the plant”. The largest container I know is Good ol' Mother Earth.

Well.....Its been nice chatting with yeah George, I have to go and check on some 'shrooms for binx and firmbeliever.

Ketch yeah Later.....k
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#217

Jul 11, 2009, 05:31 AM
B and firmb I checked for 'shrooms...............................Stop

Nothing!.......................................... .......................Stop

Believe micro-climate too dry!.....................................Stop

Will check again in the morn..after storms roll though......Stop
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Jul 11, 2009, 06:46 AM
K...I believe you may be correct there. The Micro-climate might be too dry.. Are there more days then just this one when you don't see said 'shrooms appear? Seasonal varients in the same season always wreak havoc on 'shrooms.. We had some beautiful ones growing here (i've got to get my camera charged) but once the dampness in the air and the coolness in the morning has changed they are no longer there *cries* Love the new edition of links.. I feel so special when I see my own links in there though on page twenty post 193. Maybe we should state what the link is for? *just adding advice *
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Jul 11, 2009, 09:48 AM
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K...I believe you may be correct there. The Micro-climate might be too dry.. Are there more days then just this one when you don't see said 'shrooms appear?
Hard to tell, this is the longest dry spell we've had for 'bout 5 weeks.
It did sprinkle for less then a minute today at 6:10am edt that's the first since last Friday evening.
I've been known to portage H2O to try and get another spawn for the Morels.

I just checked, Radar looks ominous and NWS put up a HAZ alert for us:

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA
1011 AM EDT SAT JUL 11 2009

PAZ004>006-010>012-017>019-024>028-033>037-041-042-045-046-049>053-
056>059-063>066-121415-
1011 AM EDT SAT JUL 11 2009

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND
EVENING...AS A COLD FRONT PUSHES ACROSS THE REGION. THE MAIN
THREATS WOULD BE FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND HAIL...BUT TORNADOES MAY BE POSSIBLE.

Darn!........and I was going to get my hair done!

There is a short wave that should hit 'bout 4pm edt, then the main 'bout 8pm

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Seasonal varients in the same season always wreak havoc on 'shrooms.. We had some beautiful ones growing here (i've got to get my camera charged) but once the dampness in the air and the coolness in the morning has changed they are no longer there *cries*
Someone needs to start a poll for more smiley's
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Love the new edition of links.. I feel so special when I see my own links in there though on page twenty post 193. Maybe we should state what the link is for? *just adding advice *
Not sure what's up with that one? Did the usual, went to preview, and that's usually when the server puts the tag in, BUT not this time.

Luckily AMHD has a long edit time (I seen up to 24hrs.) and I was able to add a line. See if that's okay.

K
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Jul 11, 2009, 11:50 AM
Well I hope you don't get any hail, tornadoes or windgusts that are too bad... Its been dry, Hot. Around 28 c today so its been nice. Supposed to get mild rainshowers to 1 to 3 mm of rain in the next two days.

I do agree... Hmmm where would said poll about smilies be put and what smilie options should be on said poll... *thinks*

The Tagline for the link looks good to me... I had to say something. It stood out to me and your right AMHD does usually add the taglines
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