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Old Jul 27, 2009, 11:06 PM
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why wouldn't obama be a u.s. citizen even if kenya-born

sen. john mccain was born in panama but nobody questioned his u.s. citizenship because his parents were u.s. citizens.

likewise, if pres. obama were born in kenya, why wouldn't he also be a u.s. citizen because his mother was a u.s. citizen?

what is the law? do BOTH parents have to be us citizens?

can a single mother give birth to a us citizen while living or travelling abroad?

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Old Jul 29, 2009, 09:46 AM   #11  
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Why did his grandmother say she was present at his birth? Because she was. His mother is really Madelyn and not Stanley Ann. Stanley Ann was on the beach in Hawaii in a bikini in August 1961. How could she have miraculously given birth to him? Why no pregnancy photos of her? Grandmother Obama never stated just WHO was the mother who gave birth.

Why would he ignore his mother Stanley Ann's dying and instead go visit his grandmother Madelyn before her death? He did state he saw his real birth certificate among Stanley Ann's belongings.

I believe that Madelyn and not Stanley Ann was his real mother. Happened all the time back in the 1950's and 1960's. Barack Obama, Sr. was probably the correct father but wrong mother that we have been lead to believe. Madelyn had much more smarts than her daughter Stanley Ann did and could have pulled off the ruse. For Madelyn to have had a black child and still living in Hawaii with her husband Stanley would have been worse than scandalous considering she was a bank executive at the time.

As for tin foil hats, please. As for factcheck, please. Why is the government tap dancing around the fact there is something terribly wrong with Barack Obama's birth certificate? Because it would show who he really is and where he was really born. Honest people don't HIDE anything. Dishonest people HIDE everything they can.
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Twinkie - you've got to get your conspiracy stories straight - are you now saying that Barrack's grandma is real his ma, and that she went to Kenya to give birth??

The problem with conspiracy throeries like this that they never can offer any proof, just conjcture. All you need do is produce one person who admits that they forfeited Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, or that they lied when they placed the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspaper. Or someone who saw his grandma pregnant at the time.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Merely suggesting that something could have happened in a certain way doesn't mean it did happen that way. Where's your proof?

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Twinkie - you've got to get your conspiracy stories straight - are you now saying that Barrack's grandma is real his ma, and that she went to Kenya to give birth??

The problem with conspiracy throeries like this that they never can offer any proof, just conjcture. All you need do is produce one person who admits that they forfeited Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, or that they lied when they placed the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspaper. Or someone who saw his grandma pregnant at the time.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Merely suggesting that something could have happened in a certain way doesn't mean it did happen that way. Where's your proof?
Here are a few facts that point to his being a natual born citizen in question. He may be a naturalized citizen but he doesnt qualify for natural born citizen because of time spent elsewhere.

obamacrimes - Home Page

Take a look and decide for yourself. In a random pole this morning at a radio station near me there was only 42% that believed that he is a natural born citizen and the rest was mostly split between no and undecided. I myself find it shocking that a majority dont know for sure.
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can a single mother give birth to a us citizen while living or travelling abroad?
Hello robert:

Yes, and that would make that child a "natural born citizen" eligible for the presidency of the United States.. This nonsense about having to be PHYSICALLY born here to be president, is a lot of hooey.

I would, however, be pleased to be wrong, if someone could just direct me to the law that says otherwise.

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Hello robert:

Yes, and that would make that child a "natural born citizen" eligible for the presidency of the United States.. This nonsense about having to be PHYSICALLY born here to be president, is a lot of hooey.

I would, however, be pleased to be wrong, if someone could just direct me to the law that says otherwise.

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Always happy to oblige my friend ...


6.1. The U. S. Constitution and the President

Its written into the constitution.
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Its written into the constitution.
Hello dad:

Not necessarily... Black does NOT agree with wikki:

The requirements for citizenship, and its very definition in American statute law, have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, stating that "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States."

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Does anyone think that if there was validity to this that the Clinton Mafia would not have found it? Cmon
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Does anyone think that if there was validity to this that the Clinton Mafia would not have found it? Cmon
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There's no thinking going on... It's pure racism. These people can't get over the fact that United States of American elected a black man as their president. So, they have to de-legitimize him any way they can, and that causes them to make up stuff.

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oh no, its not racism actually....he is still a fraud, just not the BC way. He showed last week, that HE is actually the racist
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Hello rookie:

There's no thinking going on... It's pure racism. These people can't get over the fact that United States of American elected a black man as their president. So, they have to de-legitimize him any way they can, and that causes them to make up stuff.

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Racist ? No, you dont need to throw that label my way. The presidency is colorless to me because I believe in America. And until he is kicked out of office or loses an election or ends his term I still support the president no matter who is sitting in the seat.

When dealing with facts and law then thats when it breaks away. Its not about color.
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