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How do I prevent any social worker/agent from speaking to my child alone at school?

Asked Jan 28, 2012, 08:10 AM — 18 Answers
Someone made a false report to CPS on me. I'm worried, as any normal person would be, but since the allegations are completely false, I'm not SO worried. I am willing to be cooperative, but want to protect myself as well, since I read about CPS online since this has happened and it has introduced me to issues I wasn't previously even aware of.

One issue is that, I read that social workers or other agents may try to talk to my child alone while at school, without asking my permission and without informing her that she does not have to speak to them without myself and/or a lawyer present.

My question is, how do I prevent this from happening? Can I write a letter to the school telling them not to let anyone, regardless of who they are or what they say, to talk to my child without me and a lawyer? Will the school honor that? Or do I need a lawyer to do this for me? Mind you, this is Saturday, and I don't have a lawyer 'on tap' so I need to figure out what to do by Monday morning before the school bus comes, and if I do need a lawyer, should I keep her out of school on Monday (or late to school) until I get a lawyer's official letter?

If I CAN do it myself, can someone help with the wording of the letter so that my child is 100% covered in case someone does try to speak with her alone? If I can do it myself, does it need to be notarized?

I already had a talk with her about 'just say no' to any 'talks' with anyone like this but she is 6 so I am not 100% confident that she will be able to, or be able to recognize what's happening or be able to deal with any coercion techniques these people may use.

Just want to be covered! Thanks for any tips.

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Jan 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
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Just want to be covered! Thanks for any tips.
Hello S:

There's only ONE way you can be "covered". That's to hire a lawyer TODAY and do what HE says to do, and NOTHING else... Otherwise, you're handing yourself over to the sharks..

excon

PS> Ok, it's Saturday, but don't let her go to school on Monday WITHOUT having spoken/hired somebody first.
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Jan 28, 2012, 08:41 AM
In view of your other questions concerning your daughter's hoarding habits, your tickets for unlicensed driving, falling while pole dancing, violuntary drug testing, anger management classes and so forth I would get an Attorney and I would also be worried. Sounds like your life is complicated. What is the allegation against you?

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Jan 28, 2012, 08:51 AM
My life is very uncomplicated, actually. The anger management classes question was NOT for me, I was asking for someone else. My daughter who had an issue with collecting things is a different child than the 6 year old, who is the subject of the report. That issue has resolved itself, anyway. I have also asked numerous questions about my pepper plants and a few other mundane things, did you note those as well?

I am not worried about the allegations, because they are false. I am only worried about 'the system' and keeping myself protected. The allegations have nothing to do with the question I asked. NOTHING. I asked if I needed a lawyer or not, to write a letter to the school. Do you have an answer to that?

If you have help to offer for the question that has been asked, then help. If you have only come here to try to sling mud, then you're not helping.

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Jan 28, 2012, 08:53 AM


There is no way to stop them from talking to your children at school if they feel they have a active case and feel the children are at risk. Plus I am sorry but from other posts I would agree that there could well be justification for at least an investigation from your own admissions.

You could try to give the school, the teacher, and the school board notice that no one is allowed from outside the school to speak to your child without your knowledge.

BUT, the fact is, if the teachers feel there are grounds, they are obligated to report it to CPS and often the child will be spoken to at school along with a counselor or other supervision from the school. Your letter would not stop that from happening.

Also if there is nothing wrong, to be honest it should not hurt if they talk to anyone or not?
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Jan 28, 2012, 09:01 AM
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Also if there is nothing wrong, to be honest it should not hurt if they talk to anyone or not?
Hello again, Padre:

You're right. It SHOULDN'T hurt. But sometimes it DOES! The McMartin case.

excon
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Jan 28, 2012, 09:07 AM
Fr Chuck, you're an ex-cop, right? Would you honestly tell ANYONE that it's a good idea to talk to the authorities without a lawyer? Of course not.
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Jan 28, 2012, 09:31 AM
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My life is very uncomplicated, actually. The anger management classes question was NOT for me, I was asking for someone else. My daughter who had an issue with collecting things is a different child than the 6 year old, who is the subject of the report. That issue has resolved itself, anyway. I have also asked numerous questions about my pepper plants and a few other mundane things, did you note those as well?

I am not worried about the allegations, because they are false. I am only worried about 'the system' and keeping myself protected. The allegations have nothing to do with the question I asked. NOTHING. I asked if I needed a lawyer or not, to write a letter to the school. Do you have an answer to that?

If you have help to offer for the question that has been asked, then help. If you have only come here to try to sling mud, then you're not helping.

It's not the least bit unusual to look at other threads to see if there are other "facts" not posted. Happens all the time. I find being advised last June that it is NYS law that you have to replace an out of State license with a NY license within 6 months and ignoring the advice says volumes.

Your sarcasm is totally out of place. You cannot direct who will answer you and in what manner. The fact that you were driving out a valid license could be the complaint against you. I have no idea - and apparently you don't either.

Slinging mud? I posted what YOU said. All I know about you is what you've posted. Always amazed me that people who post their own history then come back all spit and fire when that same history is brought to their attention.

If all the other questions are about your friends I'd find other friends.

And it appears that two of your children have issues. I'm including the one who is a hoarder at a very young age. Maybe that will come into question.

Then you went on to dish out some sarcasm to FrChuck - excon and I often come from different places. I agree with FrChuck on this one and partially with excon. In NY (and I'm sure you know this) if the child is suspected to be the victim of abuse the authorites do not need your permission to speak to the child and if you don't cooperate and "they" think there are grounds your child will be in foster car until "they" get the info they need or want. You don't want to post (although I asked) what the accusation is so I would wonder who made the complaint (the school?) and what the accusation it. Again, you apparently don't want to post that.

So I'd ditch my attitude and contact an Attorney, and I'd do it now.
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Jan 28, 2012, 09:52 AM
So, in order to get a simple, straight answer to a legal question, you have to create a new account. Gotcha.
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Jan 28, 2012, 10:19 AM
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So, in order to get a simple, straight answer to a legal question, you have to create a new account. Gotcha.

No, actually that's a violation of AMHD rules that can get you suspended or barred. And now that the mods are aware of your plans ...

I trust you can understand the authorities much better than you can understand the advice that's been given to you here.
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