If you don't fit into society correctly is suicide acceptable then

I would suggest to anyone who thinks they have exhausted all there options to go to a famiy support group for people who have being effected by a suicide in the family, the stark reality of 'all that crap' is quite enlightening.

In my experience there is no original problem, someone has been through it before and lived to tell the tale.

I have often wondered how bad it has to be to actually go through with the deed, how dark that place must be and I can only imagine the pain a person must be in, BUT, there are always other options..ALWAYS.

The world is slowly working it's way toward acceptable suicide. There are countries where it's legal, and there are states in the US where MDs have more options to assist those who are terminal (and many MDs do it anyway and take the risk). We are living so long now that many of us wonder, how long do we have to put up with life if we don't feel like it? My dad, sent to a care facility at 92 and pumped full of ridiculous drugs, came home in June, stopped all drugs, and died in 4 days. He not only got to be home but Medicare had a few more dollars to use on those who need it more. Yes, we are at that stage of deciding, because there isn't enough to keep everyone alive.
As for misfits, I see no reason why that shouldn't be an option for them too - as long as they have passed the test of time, such as waiting a year after applying. I would even require something like 14 months, in case it's really just grief that has an anniversary. I would opt for it myself. I think of taking my dog to the vet to be put down and how easy it was to get the shot and hold him while he went to sleep in 3 seconds. I think of the movie, They Shoot Horses, Don't They? The problem is that we as a society have to be extremely careful about not only who is really just in solvable grief and who isn't, but also watching for those who are manipulating the lives of others.

If people who have had enough of life aren't treated like there's something wrong with them, they will most likely feel better, ironically. I'm 64, and I'm finding more and more people my age who agree that we are pretty weary at the thought of a long life. There are sites just about this subject online too, but you have to find them yourself.

Another problem: once you become an advocate for suicide 'rights' you also become a target. People will want to know why you are still alive.

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Nahhh... "Fitting into society correctly", ISN'T something somebody needs to do to live a worthwhile life. In fact, I don't even know what that means. NOBODY fits "correctly". NOBODY!

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Is murder acceptable? If you don't like someone why can't you just kill them? Suicide is murder. The only difference, there's no one to charge with the crime.

My Uncle killed himself. His oldest daughter found him. She was a teenager at the time. That was over 30 years ago. To this day she still has to deal with "all that other crap". She's never forgiven him, and she suffers depression from it, and doesn't trust anyone. His pain is over, hers never will be.

As a person who's seen what "that crap" can do to a family, I have to say, I hate my Uncle for what he did. I hate what he did to his 4 kids, his wife, his sisters, brothers, parents, nieces, nephews, friends. His act was one of utter selfishness.

I wouldn't dismiss that "crap" as unimportant.

Now, can we please get back to the OP?

If you want to discuss suicide, and your rights to it, then start a thread about it.

The way I read this thread, the OP feels out of place, and is contemplating suicide. That's a cry for help, and one that should be addressed, not encouraged.

This is a young person that is having issues. They're all issues that can be resolved. Suicide isn't the answer.

If I read the OP's post incorrectly, and she does in fact want a discussion about suicide, and people's rights to commit suicide, then this thread should be in the discussion forum, and not the emotional wellbeing forum.

Since it is in the emotional wellbeing forum, this is a cry for help, and should be treated as such.

This is not a bebate, its not a for or against question, if it is it is in the wrong thread.

Joypulv, while your opinion is welcome the op is in need of help,not options on how suicide is acceptable, this is an emotional wellbeing thread.. Wellbeing being the optimium word here...you will find nowhere on this site that suicide is acceptable, while you are entitled to your own opinion, I strongly advice on this occasion you keep your advice on the side of caution as the op may take the advice offered by you as suicide as acceptable.

If you have an issue with this post I suggest you put it in writing to the owners and managment of this site.

Redhed 35.

Expert emotional wellbeing.

To the OP. I have to ask your age. Many times things that seem terrible, well, we grow out of them, or they aren't nearly as bad as we think they are. It all has to do with our age, our perception, etc.

Have you tried counseling? Are you in school? What is it about yourself that you consider to be a "misfit"?

Youve never exhausted all your options.

If suicide seems like the only one that's left, then you need to step back and take another look.

You can always do something to change the situation your in, you need to think about what that is for yourself though. People can suggest ways in which you might feel better but you need to decide what (if anything) you want to do to make things better.