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Old Nov 5, 2007, 03:49 AM
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Corproal punishment for 5 YR OLD

my 5 yr old son was paddled by the principal I have several problems about this and would like any help or suggestions.
1.) I signed the form to allow him to be paddled but i wrote in very noticeable informing them that before he was to be paddled they must first call and tell me what he is being paddled for. I live 2 miles from the school.

2.) my son received a paddling by the principal which left a very red and raised mark on him 5 hours later. I do have pictures. the principal paddled him at nap time (after lunch). He got around to calling me to inform me he was paddled at 4:00 pm.

3.) he was paddled on tuesday by the teacher for hitting a child and used the restroom on the wall. i went talked to the teacher on wednesday and also sent a note telling her he was not to be paddled again. i made it very clear I expected to be called before hand.

4.) the principal had the teacher walk him over to the office on friday and he was paddled again. this is when he left the marks. this is the best part the teacher never told him she already paddled him nor did she stop it. So the principal left marks on my 5 yr old child by accident. it took him 3 days to get around to handling it and he was 4 hours late on calling to get permission since they were told not to at all.

what should i do and how should i handle this?

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 03:04 PM   #11  
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Oh my gosh, he is 5! Why is there the need to "paddle" a 5 year old, if i ever smack my children (which is very rare, as I can make them understand things by talking to them) I do it with my hand.....what is a paddle (i'm assuming its like a stick)? I feel so sad that your son has had to go through this, I would be enraged if someone ever touched my kids......how do people cope down south????? I'm sure this is classed as child abuse.....
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:03 PM   #12  
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A child needs to be paddled at times, and parents who act like this do the worst thing they can for the child, let the teaches and principal paddle a child who needs it, and stop trying to raise a child from the new age books on kids.

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:08 PM   #13  
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A child needs to be paddled at times, and parents who act like this do the worst thing they can for the child, let the teaches and principal paddle a child who needs it, and stop trying to raise a child from the new age books on kids.
Actually I'll raise my children as I see fit whether it includes 'paddling' or not. In my case it's not.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:30 PM   #14  
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Normally it is societies issues, since from what I have seen those with liberal parents who do not paddle in a larger percent have worst manners and lack more self control. But how you deal with your children at home is your business, how the school deals with them should be the schools, and parents need to butt out and let the schools back to doing thier jobs.

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CHERIE_LABAT : If it was your child you would feel diferent. How simple minded could someone be? Your child is your responsability 24/7 even at school, friends, family or home. Were you abused as a kid or do you abuse your kids?
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:33 PM   #15  
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Are you joking me? I smack my children when needs be, i didnt learn that from a bloody book! its common sense.......And beating a 5 year old is doing what exactly????? teaching him that hitting is wrong????? Take a moment before answering........

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:35 PM   #16  
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I am sorry, but it is not the schools job to hit my child. If they, as educators, those who have the "calling" to reach children - can't find a better way to discipline other than to hit a child, then they should find a new profession.

Their job is to teach - not hit.

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:46 PM   #17  
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Permission or not, a paddling should never get to the point that it leaves red marks. Especially ones that you could take pics of HOURS later. Child Protective Services take kids off of parents for way less than that!

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CHERIE_LABAT : I've never been wild about the paddling in school, but I also dont think its fair if 4 kids get in trouble for the exact thing and 3 are paddled and 1 is not, that makes things unfair and would be controversy over that.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 05:53 PM   #18  
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Actually I'll raise my children as I see fit whether it includes 'paddling' or not. In my case it's not.

Gotta spread the love NK, while a pop on the tush from mom or dad may be appropriate if the situation deems (running out into traffic for example), paddling should not be done IMHO.

Paddling is demeaning, degrading, and totally outrageous. I would never let another adult touch my children!!!

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from what I have seen those with liberal parents who do not paddle in a larger percent have worst manners and lack more self control. But how you deal with your children at home is your business, how the school deals with them should be the schools, and parents need to butt out and let the schools back to doing thier jobs.

Whoa, now I'm about in an uproar!!! Man, I'm hot!!!

I have raised 4 beautiful wonderful children and only 1 has ever been spanked, and only once. I take that back, 2 kids have, and only once each. My youngest one last year for SEVERELY acting up in school (popped on the booty by me). I now regret what I did. Every time he gets in trouble at school he gets tearful and asks "Mom, are you gonna spank me?" I will NEVER do it again, although the situation warranted action.

My 4 children are the most loving and respectful children you would ever meet. They have good manners and a TON of self-control.

Hitting does not equate good behavior. Intimidation does not teach good behavior. Good parenting equates good behavior.

The parents should butt out and let the schools do their jobs? He!! no!!!! It is up to us as parents to know what goes on at school. It is us as parents to teach our children manners so that they behave at school, and when they don't it is our responsibility as parents to deal with the situation in an appropriate manner.

I know, as a parent, I visit my children's schools daily. Yes, I said daily. Yeah, I am the exception to the rule...but I don't paddle, spank, or hit my children. I am an active role model in their lives. I give respect and I get respect.

Wow, my blood pressure is high now!!

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 07:24 PM   #19  
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First off, I can't understand why you would have said school officials could touch your child in the first place. School officials should not, under any circumstances, be hitting students no matter what the method. Restraining students, if they are armed for instance, is one thing, but not hitting. Yes, let the school discipline students while they are on campus, with parent notification and consent if necessary (i.e. suspension would not require consent (I don't think...)).

Secondly, with the general spanking issue...my parents were among those that thought it was okay to spank a child. My father never used anything other that his hand, my mother sometimes used a wooden spoon, I don't think it was ever bare bottom. I, however, do not believe it is okay to spank a child. Maybe it is because I experienced it but I see it as a form of child abuse. My parents did it right up until I was 17 (if you haven't seen me post in other threads, I'm now 23) and only stopped because the school psychologist stepped in and told my father he shouldn't be spanking a 17 year old after I vented to a teacher. Yes, I know the child at issue here is only 5 but if it is allowed to happen at all, who knows when it will stop.

Corporal punishment in schools was also outlawed many years ago. I don't know if this is just in New York, where I'm from, or just in public schools.

To wrap up, children should never be hit as punishment and remember that a child that was abused is more likely to abuse as an adult so it needs to stop now.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 07:28 PM   #20  
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This is probably a Christian (independent Baptist?) school in the Bible Belt. If one of their discipline measures is paddling and if a parent signs a consent form, paddling is what happens if a teacher or school authority decides the child needs it.
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