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Oct 17, 2009, 08:18 PM
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| | | Stuck wiring ceiling fan to existing light switch. Attempting to wire a ceiling fan to an existing light switch. Ceiling fan has Black, Blue (light), white and ground. Fan being installed is light adaptable, but will have absolutely no plans of adding the light. I have run 14-2 wire to the light switch. Light switch has Black, Red, White and Ground. The light switch also is connected to the top portion of a outlet which we want to maintain.
I've tried every combination starting with black to black, white to white and ground to ground, with no luck. Small bedroom so no need for the switch to activate the fan just looking to supply the power. similar situation in another bedroom and wiring was fine.
Some of the combinations tried have resulted in the light working while switch is in the off position while the light plugged in to the outlet is being activated by the pull chain.
Asked a rep at Lowes about it and he suggested to disconnect the blue from the black in the ceiling fan but that made no difference. Any help would be appreciated.
Current setup:
Wiring from Fan: Black & Blue to Black, White to White, Ground to Ground.
Wall to switch: Black, Red, White & Ground. | | | | | | |
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Oct 18, 2009, 06:53 AM
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| In the switch box there should be another cable, a 2-wire cable. Get the switch back the way it was so that the switched outlet working properly. Connect the fan cable to the 2-wire cable, white to white and black to the black. The black of the 2-wire cable will also be connected to either the black or red of the 3-wire cable and will not be connected to the switch. |
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Oct 19, 2009, 01:05 PM
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| What does the light switch currently/previously control? |
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Oct 21, 2009, 11:17 PM
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| right now the switch only operates the top portion of an outlet which a lamp is plugged into. I've attached a diagram and hope it helps. Wiring diagram.pdf |
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Oct 22, 2009, 09:09 AM
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| Your diagram does not show the power source.
Where is the power source for the entire circuit?
Are you trying to control both the outlet and power for the fan off of the same switch?
Is there a pigtail that you did not show in your diagram? |
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Oct 22, 2009, 04:24 PM
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| Black is bringing power from the outlet. Red is returning power to the top half of the outlet. White is neutral.
Connect the white to white. Remove black from switch. Connect black to black and add a pig tail. Connect the pig tail to switch. Connect fan as you have diagrammed. |
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:52 AM
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| After reading your response and looking a little closer, I probably should have wired the fan to the outlet considering that is where the original power is being supplied. I've attached some pictures of the switch and outlet.
I have not tried the pig tail approach yet since my diagram was not too helpful. Hopefully the pig tail approach will work so I don't have to move the wiring from the switch to the outlet. I'd prefer not to climb around in the attic again if I don't have to.
Thank you for taking the time to read and respond. |
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Nov 3, 2009, 12:45 AM
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| Do you want the switch to control the outlet AND the fan? |
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Nov 3, 2009, 06:07 AM
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| Wiring at switch should be black to black with pigtail to switch. White to white.
This has nothing to do with wiring the fan but while you have the outlet out, move your wires to screws.
The quick connect terminals are notorious for developing bad connections. Remove black wires and add pig tail. Use pig tail to reconnect black to lower half of outlet using screw. Remove red wire and put under screw of top half. Remove whites and put under neutral screws. |
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Nov 3, 2009, 11:35 PM
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| Thank you. I'll give it a shot and hope it works. Ceilingfanrepair, I want to keep the switch operation the same and just provide power to the ceiling fan. Bedroom ceiling is low enough where the pull chain will work just fine. |
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