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  • May 13, 2012, 02:11 PM
    Carmenlopez
    Why is my dog throwing up and not eating
    My dog has been throwing up and not eating we have been forcing him to eat his food and he throws it up he has been drinking water only we think he is dehydrated so we gave him gatorade and he doesn't want to drink it so we force him please help me to find out what is going out with him :(
  • May 13, 2012, 04:24 PM
    tickle
    If he is drinking water he is not dehydrated; what gave you that idea? If he can't drink water, then get worried. I don't blame him for not wanting to drink gatorade, it isn't exactly on a canine's palate.

    When you stop trying to force him, stop obessessing about what he is doing, then maybe you can think clearly for him and you.

    Now... how old is your dog ? Has a vet appt. been on your agenda if he is not reacting normally?
  • May 13, 2012, 05:13 PM
    Alty
    Get him to the vet immediately! I just went through this with my dog Jasper, and a week later he was gone.

    The vet is the only one that can help your dog, make the appointment now, do not delay!
  • May 13, 2012, 05:19 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    If he is drinking water he is not dehydrated; what gave you that idea? If he can't drink water, then get worried. I don't blame him for not wanting to drink gatorade, it isn't exactly on a canine's palate.

    Tickle, our dog Jasper couldn't stop drinking (he drank buckets of water a day during the week before he died), wouldn't eat, but when we took him to the vet he was extremely dehydrated. If the dog is throwing up, which the OP said he's doing, then that means he's not keeping down the water either. So dehydration is completely possible and makes sense.

    Gatorade is a good idea, it has electrolytes. Better yet would be pedialyte, and I can tell you that that's not on a "canine's palate" either, but it's what you have to do to keep a dog that's dehydrated alive.

    Quote:

    When you stop trying to force him, stop obessessing about what he is doing, then maybe you can think clearly for him and you.
    This made me mad. He's not eating, and they're doing what they can. I too had to force feed Jasper because he was wasting away in front of my very eyes. How is that obsessing. Would you suggest that they just watch their dog starve to death, or die of dehydration?

    Quote:

    Now... how old is your dog ? Has a vet appt. been on your agenda if he is not reacting normally?
    Age doesn't matter. Getting to the vet does. That's the only option, and I'd hate for the OP to waste time when they could be at the vet getting an actual diagnosis and actual help. :(
  • May 14, 2012, 03:34 AM
    tickle
    Alty, thanks so much for putting me in the worse possible light. You could not have done it better. You make it look like I have never ever given any good advice on this site for dog or cat or human, or anything in between.

    Sometimes the worst unintentional care from a dog or cat owner can be obsessing what to do rather then getting a sick animal to a vet. Didn't I pont out... to a vet?


    . Gatorade would never occur to me
    . I have never had a pet in that bad a condition
    . I am not as clueless as you point out
    . I am not as uncaring as you point out
  • May 14, 2012, 04:45 AM
    tickle
    Nice, Alty, where did I say in my post not to go to the vet? Think I asked "if a vet visit was on their agenda...."

    {"why": "You should know better. Your advice on this post was horrible, and I hope that the OP decided to go to the vet and not listen to your advice, which could very well lead to this dog dying! ", "source": "http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q
  • May 14, 2012, 02:54 PM
    Alty
    Tickle you never said "go to a vet", you said "Has a vet appointment been on the agenda?"

    Here's the thing. Before you asked if they plan on going to the vet, not saying that that's the only option, you made it sound like there really wasn't that much of a reason to do so. You told them that their dog is not dehydrated if he's drinking water, not taking into consideration that the dog is vomiting. You told them not to give the dog gatorade, likely the only thing keeping this dog hydrated, if he's managing to keep it down. Even if he's not managing to keep all the gatorade down, it will still help until they get to a vet.

    You didn't demand that they see a vet, you asked if they were going to, leaving it up to someone that obviously has no idea, otherwise they wouldn't be here asking!

    That's where I had issues with your post. I never said that you give horrible advice. Most of the time your advice is sound. But this time it was very far off the mark, and it could cost this dog it's life. Remember, I just went through this, and the symptoms the OP are describing are the exact symptoms Jasper had. A week later (even though we did go to the vet) Jasper was gone.

    I never said you were uncaring. I simply pointed out that your advice on this post was not accurate. Read your post again, tell me how I could have interpreted it differently.

    The only thing that needs to be said to this OP is that he/she has to see the vet immediately. It's not an option if they want to save their dog.
  • May 14, 2012, 04:27 PM
    tickle
    Pretty hard line alty to say I am killing a dog. Sorry, doesn't wash with me. Better choose another way of saying that. Better yet, don't say anything at all.
  • May 14, 2012, 04:46 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    Pretty hard line alty to say I am killing a dog. Sorry, doesnt wash with me. Better choose another way of saying that. Better yet, dont say anything at all.

    Tickle, if this dog is not eating, vomiting, can't keep down anything, which would include water, and you tell the owner that they're obsessing, that they shouldn't give the dog gatorade (which could keep him alive until they see a vet), that he's not dehydrated even though he's been vomiting, shouldn't try to get food into the dog any way they can to, and don't tell them that the only option is to see a vet, then yes, sadly your advice could lead to the death of this dog. I wish I could paint your post in a prettier picture, but it is what it is, and that's exactly what you wrote.

    I know you're upset right now, because you don't want to admit that your advice was way off the mark. But it was, and the only reason I gave you a reddie is because of how far off the mark your advice was. I didn't do it lightly. In fact, I wasn't going to do it at all because it was you, but it was the one option I had to make sure you knew that your advice was not good. I would expect the same if I had given the advice you gave, but unlike you, I'd accept that I was wrong, and move on.

    I suggest we stop this bickering. If you think my reddie was unjustified, then report it and leave it to the mods. But I stand by it. Your advice on this post was not accurate. It could be deadly. I'm hoping it's not. I'm also hoping that the OP is a smart enough person that they realize that no one can diagnose their dog online, and that they took their dog to the vet. I hope the outcome is better than it was for us 3 weeks ago.

    Sadly the worst case scenario is, they came here for answers, and your post was the first one on this thread. When I posted they were no longer online, and they have yet to come back. If they decided that you were right, if they're not smart enough to realize that the internet should not be used to diagnose anyone, then they could be withholding gatorade (as per your suggestion), they may not be force feeding him (as per your suggestion), which may be the only nutrition he was getting , and they don't know that planning on going to the vet is not an option, they have to get to one yesterday!

    That's where we stand.

    If you want to be mad at me, and rage at me, then go ahead. It won't change my mind about the reddie. But, I do ask that you rage at me on another thread, leave this one so that the OP can come back. I don't want it closed because you're mad.
  • Jul 13, 2012, 12:43 PM
    aaliyah2hip5141
    Alty your right I looked it up and 3 sites said that is OK to give your dog gatorade
  • Aug 15, 2012, 06:41 AM
    roblaluna
    No one cares about personal leaves here.. the bottom line is if there is not a general consensus after checking several sites and there is an issue with abnormal physical behavior in your pet,, get it to a vet.
  • Aug 15, 2012, 12:09 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by roblaluna View Post
    No one cares about personal leaves here..the bottom line is if there is not a general consensus after checking several sites and there is an issue with abnormal physical behavior in your pet,,, get it to a vet.

    First, this question was asked 3 months ago. I certainly hope that in that three months the OP found her dog the help it needs.

    As for the "general consensus" on the internet about gatorade or pedialyte, I would suggest you do what I did to get the answer, and that's ask your vet. I don't rely on the internet when I provide an answer on this site.
  • Aug 16, 2012, 04:04 PM
    Joanna 2012
    First I want to know how old your dog is by years or still a pup?? Has he seen a veternarian?

    What dog or puppy food are you feeding him?? Have you switched his dog or puppy food in the last few months or so??
  • Aug 16, 2012, 04:14 PM
    odinn7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joanna 2012 View Post
    First I want to know how old your dog is by years or still a pup????? Has he seen a veternarian??

    What dog or puppy food are you feeding him??? Have you switched his dog or puppy food in the last few months or so???

    Come on now... don't you read anything else before you post? This thread is months old now and the dog either made it or is dead by now.
  • Aug 16, 2012, 04:43 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joanna 2012 View Post
    First I want to know how old your dog is by years or still a pup????? Has he seen a veternarian??

    What dog or puppy food are you feeding him??? Have you switched his dog or puppy food in the last few months or so???

    Reading all the posts and checking the dates of the posts is very important, especially with medical questions.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 05:56 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joanna 2012 View Post
    First I want to know how old your dog is by years or still a pup????? Has he seen a veternarian??

    What dog or puppy food are you feeding him??? Have you switched his dog or puppy food in the last few months or so???


    Do you read before you post? I didn't think so.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 06:27 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Do you read before you post? I didn't think so.

    She also doesn't know crap about animals. Read her chipmunk thread. Apparently she wants a chipmunk as a pet, and we're supposed to take her seriously with animal medical questions?
  • Aug 17, 2012, 07:58 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    She also doesn't know crap about animals. Read her chipmunk thread. Apparently she wants a chipmunk as a pet, and we're supposed to take her seriously with animal medical questions?


    I'm guessing 11 years old.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:30 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I'm guessing 11 years old.

    It's hard for me to guess when it comes to age, because I compare the posters to my kids. My daughter is 9 and she knows more about animals than most adults do. So does my son. Also, neither one of them writes using chat speak.

    If either one posted tomorrow you'd never know they're children, if you compare their posts to other children on this site. They're children in many ways, many many ways, but when it comes to writing, and knowledge, I often question the kids that post here. My kids aren't geniuses, far from it. What does that make the people that post here that seem far younger than my 9 year old and 13 year old, when they're actually a lot older?

    Really makes me afraid for the future. My kids don't seem to be the norm, at least not compared to most of the kids that post on this site.
  • Aug 18, 2012, 06:45 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    Really makes me afraid for the future. My kids don't seem to be the norm, at least not compared to most of the kids that post on this site.


    I also would venture a guess that your children don't spend their days posting on adult Internet sites.

    I always wonder where the parents are.

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