Potty Training a 4 month old Saint Bernard puppy.

goldenboy3 · Feb 16, 2012, 12:24 PM

i know what a crate is and as u said it needs to be trained so this person cant just shove the puppy in the crate at night it can hurt its self it can chip its teeth and its gums can bleed if he chews the crate.

Alty · Feb 16, 2012, 03:47 PM

You're 20 and you've had 30 dogs?

Look up crate training, and look up potty training. When you actually learn something then we can talk. Until then I'm done talking to someone that has absolutely no idea how to raise a dog.

I'm not the pet expert because I can google. I'm the pet expert because I have had and worked with animals all of my 41 years. I've never had more than 3 dogs at a time because it's not allowed in my area, and all of my dogs have lived well past the normal 12 year span. In fact, my lab Indy, who we had to put to sleep a few months ago, was 16. My poodle Silver was almost 19 when he died.

If you really want to gain expertise on dogs it takes more than just owning them, and apparently not taking very good care of them (I say again, 30 dogs in 20 years, that's unheard of!)

Old methods, like the ones you spout, are outdated for a reason. There's no dog owner or trainer out there that would recommend your methods.

As for the crate. Have you ever studied dogs? Do you know anything about their natural habitat, their natural instincts? Even domesticated dogs still have the instincts of their wild cousins. So I ask you, and don't google it. Where do dogs in the wild live? Think about it. Think hard. Then make the connection to the crate. If you can't do that, then please, stop posting nonsense. The people coming here for help with their dogs need real advice, not outdated crap.

ballengerb1 · Feb 16, 2012, 06:32 PM

I really must agree with Alty. Many people own dogs and believe their experineces have helped them become dog trainers. Others of us have been trained by actually dog trainers and know proven techniques that produce results without traumatizing the animal. I crate my dogs frequently, they love it, their crate is their den and they frequently crate themselves when they want to rest. Crating is short term, not for the rest of their lives.My dogs are crated for 6-7 hours tops and only when necessary. Before you drop a reddie on me you should know it is worth a single point. Alty or some other dog person would likely come by and give me a greenie, worth 5 points, so who benefits from this I ask.

KellyC7 · Feb 17, 2012, 03:04 PM

Goldenboy, rubbing their nose in it teaches them to fear their urine. It instills FEAR in them. It may correct the problem to you, but it creates insecurities in THEM. You never act violently (as such) to a canine unless you want other behavior issues to arise, or your dog to feel a lack of confidence. Positive reinforcement reroutes their behavior and teaches them CONFIDENCE in doing the right thing. Alty is 100% correct, and I am a dog walker and petsitter and also help owners with training techniques. It saddens me to see that you are so misled and confident in such a poor strategy. That's sheer ignorance.

KellyC7 · Feb 17, 2012, 03:06 PM

Also Goldenboy, crating at night and while a person is not at home is a way to keep the dog safe. A dog could die by getting into household things, or choking on objects that may be lying around. If you introduce a crate properly, they will look to it as their safe haven, and often go in there with their own free will. Dogs like an enclosure.

Potty Training a 4 month old Saint Bernard puppy.

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