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Old Jan 7, 2008, 04:28 AM
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can anything be done 4 Kidney failure in dogs?

i wrote on here while ago that my dog Jamie was sick ( not eating properly, throwing up, not acting herself etc. ) from tests today i found out that she has severe kidney failure im so upset i dont know what im going to without her shes my best friend the best dog anyone could have. at the vet today she has 2 blood tests and other stuff didnt growlor yelp once she is so good. im crying atm im trying not 2 let it show just yet i dont want her 2 b sad because i am in her last days. we have to put her 2 sleep soon maybe wednesday before she goes through any more pain. she has lost 2 kg in a week and a bit and alot of weight before than. the vet said there is nothing we can do for this. i wanted to check to see if anyone knew on here if there was anything at all that we could do to help her? please help me.

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Old Jan 7, 2008, 08:18 AM   #2  
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xxgaw. I have no suggestions other than I know that Oprah's dog a Black Cocker Spaniel was having kidney failure some months back and they were doing holistic treatments. As far as I know she is stll alive. You may be able to find something about that on the internet.
I also want to say how sorry I am. I know that you are terribly upset over this and are searching for any type hope. Just remember that you can only do so much and just be with her untill the end.
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I am very sorry to hear that. It looks like you have come to the end of a rough road. I have my doubts about extending through unproven holistic treatments. I think it is cruel to give you false hope and would be cruel to make your dog suffer more on dubious cures.

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bushg disagrees: Did not answer the op's question just gave personal feeling on holistic treatments. Also, suggeted that my info was cruel.
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I'm sorry to hear about the news you have gotten. I myself have a 2 year old dog that is in kidney failure. So far for the last 3 months her kidney enzymes have stayed the same. They are not getting better and not getting worse.

The only treatment that i was doing was giving her fluids subcutaneously. That flushes some of the toxins out of the kidneys. But my Molly got to where she hated being given fluids so my husband and I stopped. We decided that when we thought she was suffering we would make a decision. We stopped the fluids about 6 months ago. She urinates sometimes in her sleep and sometimes walks with her back bowed up. But other than that she feels fine and plays like a puppy.

Ask your vet if giving fluids at home might help the situation. The thing you want to make important here is her quality of life. At our clinic we had a dog that the owners gave fluids for 2 years and he had a great life. The only reason he is no longer with us is because his owners had a baby and no longer had the time to give him the care he needed so they euthanized him. The fluids made a real difference in him. Because when he showed up on our doorstep we thought he wouldn't have made it another day but he went for 2 years.

How old is your dog? What are her symptoms? Does she eat and drink still?

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thankyou we got told we could give her fluids but it would only extend her life for a couple of weeks a month at the most.. my dogs 7 years old shes staffy x boxer so shes usually hypo and bubbley. she hardly eats but the past 2 times shes ate shes thrown it up. as soon as she eats she goes and eats grass and throws up. she has been really sad and out of character and she gets up and stands there not knowing what to do. i feel so bad. im meant to make a choice for what day this week to get her put to sleep but to me there is no time i want to choose to end her life its going to be just as bad anyday. i know it has to happen though to sto the pain but shes my best friend.
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I always tell people it is best to educate themselves about their health.
I don't know anything about dogs kidney problems.
I did reverse my dogs cancer for two years studying about it.
At this stage anything is worth trying.
I googled this
read through these and see what all you can try for your dog.

herbs for dogs kidney failure - Google Search

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grammadidi agrees: It's as accurate as it can be under the circumstances. If nothing else, it gives empathy, support and hope - & that often works with humans, why not pets?
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More unproven false hope.
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Old Jan 8, 2008, 12:04 AM   #8  
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My vet is a very well-known and highly regarded veterinarian in Canada. I lost my best friend, Sam (Samantha) to kidney failure in September, 2005. Dr. John asked me for permission to try one thing with her, and promised that if he felt that Sammy was suffering at all that he would tell me immediately and we would end treatment and euthanize immediately.

We put her on massive doses of intravenous fluids to flush out her kidneys. He has used the method before, and while it is often not successful, he has had enough positive results that he recommends it. If successful, it can give the dog several months to several years of a good quality life. He has one patients who is still alive 4 years later. After 2 days of treatment she began to eat a small amount. With something to calm her stomach she did not throw up what she ate. She was good for 3 or 4 days after treatment stopped but went downhill fast on the 4th night. On the morning of the 5th day I held her in my arms as she quietly went to sleep on her favourite blanket in the vet's office.

Would I do it again if one of 'my boys' was experiencing the same thing??? I give you a resounding "Yes!" Other than for a few hours in the wee hours of that last morning I know that she felt the same or better than she had felt in a long time. Also, if we hadn't tried the treatment she would not have lived more than a few hours as her condition was so advanced. Giving her the treatment gave us time to say our goodbye's without her suffering needlessly, and MIGHT have bought her some additional time.

I don't know if your Jamie is as far along as my Sam was. There just came a time when I knew that it was going to go from making her feel better and possibly well for a period of time to keeping her alive due to my own inability to let go. Once that line was in danger of being crossed... once I knew that she was feeling worse and I was only prolonging the inevitable... I was strong enough to make the right decision.

Only you really know how ill she is, but, contrary to some people's opinions I believe that you absolutely have the right to try something for a day or two if the vet agrees she won't suffer. Doctor's prolong people's lives every day, and sometimes people go through hell, but end up living for many years. Other times they live a few hours or days which allows family members and loved ones to come to terms with the impending loss.

Giving Jamie fluids will not hurt her, or make her suffer.

NO-ONE should judge you for needing that, or for trying to save the life of a loved one.

Do what is in your heart.... you know what is best is your situation - not just for Jamie, but for you, too.

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Sarah_the_vet_tech agrees: Very good answer...it comes from experience..
N0help4u agrees: yep kidney flushes work for humans stands to reason that it can give the pup some relief if nothing more.
RubyPitbull agrees: Voice of experience is the best help we can give for this situation.
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More unproven false hope.
... but a very warm, thoughtful, caring and well thought out response. That is important when someone is losing their best friend. You might want to consider that from time to time, Labman. It's not always about 'proven' responses and/or treatments (after all, isn't chemotherapy the same thing?). Sometimes it's just plain about about caring... and trying to help.

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Quote grammadidi agrees: It's as accurate as it can be under the circumstances. If nothing else, it gives empathy, support and hope - & that often works with humans, why not pets?

I believe when life gets to this point it is worth doing whatever you can even if it doesn't extend life it just might help with the quality in that short time that is left or even lessen the pain.
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