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Old Feb 8, 2006, 05:05 AM
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ban of pit bull dogs

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"Rep. Wesselhoft said the proposed bill will also include provisions designed to bring about an eventual ban of pit bull dogs in the state.
The grandfather clause contained in the bill would allow for the continuing existence of pit bulls currently in Oklahoma. However, pit bull owners would have to have the dogs spayed or neutered, and the animals would need regular rabies shots.
In addition, a pit bull owner would have to be age 21 or older and would be required to have a $100,000 liability insurance policy on every pit bull.
Also, each pit bull would have to be tattooed or otherwise marked when it is registered with the state. Owners would not be able to sell or transfer the dogs to other individuals in Oklahoma, excluding family members. And a person living in Oklahoma will not be able to bring in a new pit bull from out of state.
After those pit bulls that are allowed to remain in Oklahoma under the grandfather clause of the proposed bill die of old age, Wesselhoft said there should be very few pit bulls remaining in the state, if any."


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lilfyre agrees: thanks for stirring it up again pit-bull are pest now this. this forum is not worth it.
 
     

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Old Feb 8, 2006, 08:37 AM   #11  
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Agree with Need.A pit bull is bred to hunt.Why own a dangerus animal.Just stick to faithful fido.
You're right but I also agree with them that often the problem lies in the reason behind the owner selecting that breed of dog (the pit bull). Often it's because they are an individual on the fringe of society who want to either appear tough. The hefty insurance fee is designed to weed out that particular type of owner.
 
 
     
 
 
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Agree with Need.A pit bull is bred to hunt.Why own a dangerus animal.Just stick to faithful fido.

I have a fido, Miss Piggy a pit-bull, she had a sad life of mistreatment, by not so nice people it is not the breeds fault. if we made the people that breed these dogs for this do hard time for real, rather than releasing the with a mister meaner offence. Take the house the car and what ever else they own this would stop. it is sad,
 
 
     
 
 
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Pit bulls don’t have to be dangerous if they have proper owners.

The problem is, even 5 bad owners means 5 cases of death or mutilation, and even 1 is really unacceptable.

As Joe said, here in Ontario, our government has banned pit bulls all together. Was it the right decision? Well, with all the cases we had, I say yes. If we could simply just get rid of the bad owners, that would have been better, but that is kind of impossible to do.

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MOWERMAN2468 agrees: the decision to ban is what i personally would consider the right answer.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 8, 2006, 08:57 AM   #14  
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I agree that people who mistreat animals should be locked up,and the key thrown away.All I'm saying is that to me a pit bull is not the sort of dog that I believe should be a house pet.As you say,your dog was rescued,so I applaud you for that.But the fact remains they can/are a breed which can prove tricky.If you are an experianced handler,who understands the pit bull 100%,then you are wonderful.But,neglected,and mistreated,they can/will turn nasty.For me,a pit bull is a no-no.I have a five year old son,often he asks,can we have a pet dog? We have four cats,so it's out of the question now.If we had no cats,would I buy a pit bull.No way.
 
 
     
 
 
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to change just one persons mind (O:

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Pit bulls don’t have to be dangerous if they have proper owners.

The problem is, even 5 bad owners means 5 cases of death or mutilation, and even 1 is really unacceptable.

As Joe said, here in Ontario, our government has banned pit bulls all together. Was it the right decision? Well, with all the cases we had, I say yes. If we could simply just get rid of the bad owners, that would have been better, but that is kind of impossible to do.


You are right, and if you spent time in the shelter as I do watching these dos that are good dog, tested as safe, put to sleep because people are afraid of them, it breaks my heart, I have played with them spent time with them. I took them out walked them. Thousands of them are put to sleep each year because of dog fighting and these pits never ever not once ever fought a fight. They are only fighting for their life. So in a shelter they have 30, 60, 90, 120 days to find a home. Simply because of intercity meanness. as I will try hard to not look at this post again.


We sat and answered question here on this forum a month ago, to a person that was asking dog fighting question in a round about, we all answered him and helped him out. To the one that answered him including myself, we are all part of the problem.

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Any one who owns a pit-bull that is a good dog owner will do their best, to maintain a positive image with their dog, and will not flaunt them with big collar and such to draw attention to them in a negative way. Miss Piggy our pit-bull has toured with our giniea pig rescue and equine rescue, trying her little heart out to change the stereo type of this killer breed.
 
 
     
 
 
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I agree that people who mistreat animals should be locked up,and the key thrown away.All I'm saying is that to me a pit bull is not the sort of dog that I believe should be a house pet.As you say,your dog was rescued,so I applaud you for that.But the fact remains they can/are a breed which can prove tricky.If you are an experianced handler,who understands the pit bull 100%,then you are wonderful.But,neglected,and mistreated,they can/will turn nasty.For me,a pit bull is a no-no.I have a five year old son,often he asks,can we have a pet dog? We have four cats,so it's out of the question now.If we had no cats,would I buy a pit bull.No way.

1 have 1 bunny 2 cats 32 guinea pigs in my home the cat and bunny free roam with the dog, even when i am not home, no dead bodies here, in my small animal rescue. (O:

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Nez agrees: You are a kind animal saint.I bow out gracefullyAll the best.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 8, 2006, 09:44 AM   #17  
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I agree that alot has to do with the way the dog is trained. PitBulls by nature are more of an agressive breed. But that doesn't mean that they all will attack someone.
The problem is that most dog owners that own a PitBull never have it properly trained and they become dangerous.
I don't blame the dog because there are dogs like Rotties and Dobermans that are more naturally agressive also but not all of them will hurt someone.
People who don't take responsibility for there pets shouldn't be allowed to own them. Too many people are getting attacked many of them children and its all due to poor responsibility on the owners

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lilfyre agrees: i could not hit disagree, i would like to point out that they are not aggresive by nature, all dogs are caring, they are taught this from birth, they are not born this way
MOWERMAN2468 agrees: i disagree with lilly, traits are genetic, aggression in the pit bull is genetic. go to biology class and learn about selective breeding.
 
 
     
 
 
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This is absolutely useless stupidity. Ban Pit Bulls, and the idiots will go to Dobes, Rotts, Shepherds, etc. What we need are laws that puts people with dogs trained to be vicious in jail. Your dog injures somebody, you do time.

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lilfyre agrees: thank you, there will always be the next breed
momincali agrees: Absolutely 100% correct.
MOWERMAN2468 agrees: well responsibility would be nice, and perhaps the owners would go to a different breed. but pits are dangerous dogs. labman, you should have some stats for us on the # of unprovoked attacks by different breeds. that would help here.
 
 
     
 
 
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Excellant idea.
 
 
     
 
 
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That's interesting that Ontario has banned pit bulls all together. They are still allowed in my province, but where I live we have something called a "Dangerous Dog" Bylaw. There is a list of breeds that are considered dangerous (I imagine pitbulls, rottweilers, dobermans, etc are on the list), and people owning those breeds need a special license on top of the usual dog license, must spay or neuter their dogs, and of course not allow their dogs to run free. It is also against the law to have any more than 2 "dangerous dogs" per household. Breeding is banned unless you are a board certified breeder. There are stiff penalties for any infringement of these laws. Recently a little girl was mauled in a town close to here, by a rottweiler/german shephard cross. The dog was never dangerous prior to this. The owner of the dog had 5 dogs, not sure what breeds, but they were all destroyed.

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MOWERMAN2468 agrees: great ban there, i wish we had it in all 50 states, and all U.S. owned territories. this breed is dangerous.
 
 
     


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