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    mumtosix Posts: 42, Reputation: 6
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    Nov 2, 2009, 03:36 PM
    Would a 9 year old make this up - threats to kill?
    Dad has not spoke to son and daughter in 2 years ( ex wife decided)
    Out of blue message on social network site giving daughter's mobile number asking him to call her.
    Dad speaks to 6 year old son and 9 year old daughter daily for 2 weeks
    Daughter texts dad saying how she misses him and what are you doing etc etc daily
    Then tonight daughter texts asking what he had for tea etc normal 9 year old talk - one text is I had curry for tea then suddenly another text " Dad your in danger"
    Dad texts back what do you mean - she replies my mum is talking to people and these people are looking for you and want to kill you!!

    My partner is distraught - yes his ex wife as I would put it has a few screws missing I have had a few runs in with her in past! Now he is terrified if he says anything or does anything she will just stop all contact again , he has only just got back onto speaking terms with his 2 kids!

    There is lots more to the story but thought I would ask - would a child make this up?
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    Nov 2, 2009, 04:04 PM

    Its really hard to say. Is his daughter prone to lying or making up stories? At nine years old she may not yet have the ability to understand the consequences of big fibs.

    I would suggest him having a long, deep conversation about this with his daughter to get a better understanding of what's going on. If it is a story he needs to explain to her how serious a lie like that is and help her understand that you don't play with things of this nature.

    If she does not admit to this being a story then your husband needs to treat this like a serious threat. If nothing else he needs to file a report of this to the police.
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    Nov 2, 2009, 04:11 PM

    Is there a chance it was a prank?

    Perhaps due to halloween,or something else.
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    Nov 2, 2009, 04:52 PM

    The history between him and his ex is very volitile - he left due to her violent nature - she in return stopped all contact telling the kids he walked out on them.

    Contact was remade at xmas time while he bought all the gifts after xmas / birthdays she would stop contact again.
    She accused him of allowing the kids to watch porn material and stopped contact to weeks later asking him to have them. This went on for 3 years.

    Then he met me - we had the kids for 1 week and took them on holiday - all fine they returned home and ex wife said they could come stay with us in Oct holidays - I fell prgenant with our daughter - I told partner to phone ex wife and ask if he could tell the kids they were going to have new borther or sister - she went crazy calling him dirty and disgusting and as he had new family he would not want his own - so all contact stopped again.

    Partner tried to phone to only get told in a nasty way to go away , she even phoned the police to say he was phoning being abusive - I even tried to text her to say look this is not fair on the kids we are adults - I had the police onto me as she had said I had phoned thretening to kidnap?

    So many things have happened - like my parteners 3 last ex's all meeting up and taking a photo of all 3 children he has and sedning it via email saying you will never see them again.
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    Nov 2, 2009, 04:57 PM
    Partner has spoken to ex wife as he wanted answers and she just screamed at his daughter and said nothing to do with her daughter lying but if he ever phones again she will get a solicitor and contact will be stopped??

    We did phone the police to ask for advice and they have been out and taken a statement and it has all got a little too much - like ex wife cousin and his other 2 ex partners who he has kids with all becoming friends on a social network site ( they do not know each other)

    As for her lying why would she? I mean one text was about what she had for tea and within split second dad your in danger - if it was a lie would she not have sat and thought about it - would she not know dad would phone mum and she would be found out and contact would be stopped again.

    The police have taken it seriously due to criminal pasts with 2 of his ex's partners.

    I just feel awful as police told partner to delete daughters and ex wife number and block them so after 2 years of no contact to being promised they can come for Xmas he now has to break all contact.
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    Nov 2, 2009, 05:50 PM
    This all sounds very confusing to me.

    He has children with three different women, and you have had a child with him, making him a father to four. All the ex's sent him pictures of his children? This sounds like a big mess to me.

    Are there any custody and/or visitation court orders in place? Does he pay child support, and make attempts to enforce any rights that he has?

    You say that the police are taking this seriously because:

    The police have taken it seriously due to criminal pasts with 2 of his ex's partners.
    Was he charged with criminal offences? Is this why he is denied contact?

    While I think that it is natural for the 9 year old to seek out her father, I get the sense that the mother went ballistic for a reason (who knows her side of the story), and as you said the police have said to stop all contact. Why the 9 year old said what she did is anybody's guess.

    Perhaps he could see a good lawyer and enforce visitation (at least) with all of his children, if that's what he wants.
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    Nov 2, 2009, 11:04 PM
    Sounds like they live in crazy town to me. I know people like your partner's Ex - my husband's ex is very similar.

    If your partner wants to see his children he needs to do it through the courts - all legal - but I can guarantee his ex will make up stories about him to deny him access - my husband's ex accused him of being friends with a pedophile and multiple other fantasies she was harboring.

    I would not be having any contact with this crazy woman. Don't get involved. Let your partner make all the contacts - they are his children after all. Remember, you are not dealing with someone that has the same reality as you. Attempts to appeal to her better nature won't work - she doesn't have one.

    Your partner needs to keep contact with the children by mail - send cards, presents for birthday and Christmas, etc. Eventually they will make contact again, when they are older. However, be prepared for them to have a very different version of events and for them to be potentially hostile to your partner.
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    Nov 3, 2009, 02:19 AM

    My partner has no crimal past , his 2 ex girlfriends new partners do.

    We are seeking legal action but both ex girlfriends just do not reply.

    His ex wife has told me he can not see his children as he walked out on then , he did not walk on his kids he walked out on her.

    Yes he pays child maintenance , to all 3 children.

    If he tried to contact ex to speak to kids they say he is harassing them , he is at his wits end.
    It is making him ill.

    He has never been denied contact by anyone other than the 2 ex partners.
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    Nov 3, 2009, 05:49 AM

    Its very sad but sometimes you just have to let it go until the kids are old enough to make their own decisions,I have a friend who spent a small fortune through the courts to get proper visitation and it is still no better she finds ways to make him meserable the court order means NOTHING to this woman.All you can do is trust in the fact that they will pay in the end for their dirty deeds.
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    Nov 3, 2009, 08:28 AM
    Under the circumstances you described, I can see no way of him gaining access to his children, unless he goes to court, and establishes visitation.

    We are seeking legal action but both ex girlfriends just do not reply.
    Non compliance is why parents go to court. Your lawyer will be able to advise you on this.

    Many non-custodial parents start in that boat, but if your husband persists in demanding his rights to see his children, he likely will see them under a court order to do so.

    Until that is established, all the rest is unnecessary drama, and produces no results.

    If he is waiting for both ex-girlfriends to reply voluntarily, and suddenly allow visitations, hell will likely freeze over first.

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