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Now don't go getting all soppy on me. I ain't about to cash in my chips any time soon.
However, I DO want to be the one who decides when the time is right. Why shouldn't I be able to?
I'm talking about doing this when my body tells me it's time, not because I'm depressed. Or, is there a difference? I don't want to suffer. I don't want to be a burden on anybody. I don't want to be a shell who needs his butt wiped. Is it fair to NOT want those things?
I'm not interested too much in what your religion has to say on the matter. I wanna know what YOU think. After all, you my friends, are the ones I'm askin.
I agree with you Excon. I watched my grandmother wither away. Her mind was gone years before her body. I don't want to outlive my intellect and would like to go in dignity. I would rather people remember me as a vibrant person rather than a scary old woman. I don't fear getting old. I just don't want to be a burden and when the body and wit run out I want to check out quietly, on my own terms.
I'm talking about doing this when my body tells me it's time, not because I'm depressed. Or, is there a difference?
I think that where the problem lies. Whilst I agree with everything you say how will one know that THIS is the moment to go versus simply being in a temporary depression. Living wills already exist but mostly dealt with a person being mechanically assisted with life's vitals and, if the mechanical component were removed there is a very low percentage of recovery. But I don't think that's what you are talking about. I've heard that if you hit that late life stage, you're very ill and you've made peace with the fact that you've had a good life and it's time to kick the bucket, if you've decided psychologically not to fight whatever is ravaging your body then death will come on its own.
I can't help but think of somthing I read once. I don't remember who it was about, or where it was (though I'm pretty sure it was on the internet), but basically, this guy commited suicide, and left a note. The note said somthing to the effect of "I'm sorry to those of you who will miss me, but I got bored with life, and I was curious about what comes afterwards. So long." I'm sure that's far from what he actualyl said, but it had the same idea.
Living wills can be usefull.
You could go a step further:
I'm DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) as well.
In other words, if I'm not going to be around, I don't want to be around.
Period.
I think that where the problem lies. Whilst I agree with everything you say how will one know that THIS is the moment to go versus simply being in a temporary depression.
Hello again, Need:
Well, of course, that's the question. However, I'm sure that when I'm contemplating it, I'm not going to be all bubbly. Even having had a great life, I think that facing the end game with a deteriorating body is gonna be a little depressing in its own right, isn't it? And, wouldn't that be normal, instead of what you call "temporary"?
Here's what brought this up. I get leg cramps now and then. It ain't nothing now. I just get up and stretch a little bit. Then I got to imagining what it would be like if I couldn't get up and I couldn't tell anybody. Dude! That would suck.
Living wills can be usefull.
You could go a step further:
I'm DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) as well.
In other words, if I'm not going to be around, I don't want to be around.
Period.
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Those are TOO late
What if you're crossing Main St, USA, and get struck by a Greyhound?
Busted into pieces but LifeFlighted to the nearest trauma center?
If you're so badly broken you can't speak, a DNR needs to be in place.
You should be able to decide when you die. I'm thinking about doing it right now - well, in about two hours - because I've put it off for too long and I've got nothing to live for. Too many times in the past I've held off termination because of the pain and suffering it would cause those who love me, but I realized that they'll get over it. And if they don't, well, they should. They all expect me to do this, it will come as no surprise, in fact several people will be able to say "told you so." More power to them. Thing is, I'm the one who is tired of slugging it out day after day, miserable to the core, everything I love is now dead and gone, and it's about time I joined them. However, I'm pretty gutless and I now know that for some, it takes a great deal of courage to do oneself in. More bravery than it takes to live. Plus, there's always the argument of "on a planet with an unsustainable population of over 6 billion and increasing, any efforts to reduce this number is commendable. We must start putting animals in danger of extinction way before human life and I'll be first in line to help that. When there are only 2000 red pandas (I'm just guessing) alive, and over 6 billion humans, what is more precious? Greedy, self serving humans? No, we would do well to cull this herd however we can. I'm going to do my bit.
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