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Ol' Bill grew up in the Chicago suburb just west of me. He and I coulda had pizza together had we known each other back when we were kids.
He didn't get caught, but did turn himself in.
These are his comments regarding terrorist, printed in Wikipedia --
"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States." In a letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune, Ayers wrote, "I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official". He also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks in that letter. "Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response."
Nice distintion .He was waging war on America then as he bomber the NYC Police HQ .
Here is another of his warped definitions explaining why he was not a terrorist : "Terrorists destroy randomly,"..."while our actions bore ... the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate."
His girl friend died making a nail bomb that would've been detonated at a dance where both soldiers and civilians were to attend . Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too. "http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2169
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Found this link just after posting. Four to one the world wants Obama over McCain. Guess its lucky for a lot of you guys that we dont get a vote.
It includes Hamas, Hizbolah, Al Qaeda, the PLO, the Taliban, FARC and all the other terrorists. It includes Castro, Chavez, Kim Gong Il, the Chinese leadership and Ahmadinejad.
We should not be basing our presidential choices on what outsiders, including our enemies, would like to see. If our enemies want Obama, it seems pretty clear to me that Obama is the LAST person we should vote for.
Ol' Bill grew up in the Chicago suburb just west of me. He and I coulda had pizza together had we known each other back when we were kids.
He didn't get caught, but did turn himself in.
These are his comments regarding terrorist, printed in Wikipedia --
"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States." In a letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune, Ayers wrote, "I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official". He also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks in that letter. "Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response."
I dunno... blowing up statues in public parks, blowing up police stations, blowing up military recruiting offices, and blowing up the capitol... aren't these acts of terrorism?
Ayers claims his actions were designed to "educate"?
He was a friggin' university professor. That's his idea of education? What was his curriculum? Plastique 101? How to make home-made pipe bobs? Civil disobedience and violent protest for the 20th Century?
Education TEACHES people. Blowing stuff up KILLS people. Ayers was no educator, regardless of what he calls himself.
Worse, he sympathizes with terrorists, and counts himself as one of them. After the Towers came down on 9-11, Ayers said that the only thing he regretted was that he didn't blow MORE stuff up like the 9-11 terrorists did. HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF ONE OF THEM.
Please don't be so naive, Carol. Ayers is a sick and dangerous man, and a terrorist. He's NOT in the league of an OBL, but only because he incompetent, not for lack of trying. And he's PROUD to be counted among their number.
No, I don't care what McCain's friends did decades ago either, it's not relevant.
Actually, it is very relevant. Who a person associates with is indicative of who he takes advice from.
ANd it's hard to question McCains friends... they were all spending their time in the Hanoi Hilton getting the crap kicked out of them by communist enemies of the USA, while Ayers was blowing stuff up back home in sympathy for the guys who were torturing McCain and his buddies.
Associations go DIRECTLY to indicate what a person believes, supports, and takes comfort in. And Obama's associations are DANGEROUS indicators that he is the WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB.
It includes Hamas, Hizbolah, Al Qaeda, the PLO, the Taliban, FARC and all the other terrorists. It includes Castro, Chavez, Kim Gong Il, the Chinese leadership and Ahmadinejad.
We should not be basing our presidential choices on what outsiders, including our enemies, would like to see. If our enemies want Obama, it seems pretty clear to me that Obama is the LAST person we should vote for.
Elliot
If the world is so in love with him , they can have him
He was a friggin' university professor. That's his idea of education? What was his curriculum? Plastique 101? How to make home-made pipe bobs? Civil disobedience and violent protest for the 20th Century?
Education TEACHES people. Blowing stuff up KILLS people. Ayers was no educator, regardless of what he calls himself.
Worse, he sympathizes with terrorists, and counts himself as one of them. After the Towers came down on 9-11, Ayers said that the only thing he regretted was that he didn't blow MORE stuff up like the 9-11 terrorists did. HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF ONE OF THEM.
Please don't be so naive, Carol. Ayers is a sick and dangerous man, and a terrorist. He's NOT in the league of an OBL, but only because he incompetent, not for lack of trying. And he's PROUD to be counted among their number.
Elliot
IS, Elliiot, IS. Ayers IS a college teacher NOW. He teaches classes in social justice, urban educational reform, narrative and interpretive research, dealing with children in trouble with the law, etc.
Here is a site that lists the books he has written:
Ayers is not "a sick and dangerous man," as you so glowingly phrased it. He is not proud of his past (40 years ago!!!!!!) which occasionally comes back to bite him in the butt, as pasts so often do.
Naive, Elliot? Who's naive? I at least do research on both sides of an issue and read what I have found and weigh the information therein and do my level best not to swallow hook, line, and sinker whatever the party line is.
P.S. And I would be very pleased to eat pizza with Bill Ayers today if I had the chance, Elliot, just as I would be pleased to share one with you.
Here's his blog. Feel free to read it and post a comment:
Ayers is not "a sick and dangerous man," as you so glowingly phrased it. He is not proud of his past (40 years ago!!!!!!) which occasionally comes back to bite him in the butt, as pasts so often do.
''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.''
In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.'' ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.
So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ''I don't want to discount the possibility,'' he said.
Even today, he finds ''a certain eloquence to bombs, a poetry and a pattern from a safe distance,'' he writes.
This does not sound like a man who is not proud of his past. It, in fact, sounds like a man who is quite proud of his past and wants to in some way recapture the "glory" of his past. It sounds like a man who wishes to continue in the actions of the past. It sounds like someone who CELEBRATES his past.
Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist, a lover of bombs at "a safe distance", and a hater of America.
Ayers' politics haven't changed. Nor have his methods. He is still hell-bent on destroying American capitalism, democracy and "imperialism".
Why you would want to have a pizza with such a person, I have no idea.
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