What would Che do ?

tomder55 · Jun 15, 2008, 02:20 AM

A poster of Che Guevara (strategically placed next to one of Obama)hangs on the wall of a judge who found Ohio's death penalty law unconstitutional.

Ohio judge: State must change lethal injection law - USATODAY.com

Perhaps he is also a fan of Che's rhetoric. Here's one for the judge :

"Judicial evidence is an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution. We execute from revolutionary conviction."
Che

tomder55 · Jun 16, 2008, 04:49 AM

Che was a murderer who bound, gagged and blindfolded his victims as he murdered them by the thousands without trial As the quote I provided points out he claimed that judicial evidence was an "unnecessary bourgeois detail" He stressed that "revolutionaries must become cold-killing machines motivated by pure hate".
Today his T-shirts and posters are worn and hung on the walls of those who oppose capital punishment.

Is that not irony ? It is a huge insult to compare him to the founders of our country .

tomder55 · Jun 16, 2008, 05:03 AM

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Yes, the death penalty given by lethal injection IS torture, and that's exactly why it was overturned.

That is of course one judges opinion. Lethal Injection has been challenged before and found constitutional . However ,the issue here is protocol and the judge would have a case if he argued that procedures should be standardized to avoid the possibility of the person being executed being in pain.

Ironically most people who claim this is cruel and unususal often support the same procedures and protocols when discussing euthenasia.

excon · Jun 16, 2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

That is of course one judges opinion.

Hello again, tom:

And, it's HIS opinion that counts in THIS case. That's how our system works.

excon

speechlesstx · Jun 16, 2008, 07:34 AM

Judge's offices, Obama campaign offices, what is it with this fascination with Fidel's executioner?

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"A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate." Che Guevara.

"We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims... We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm." Che Guevara.

"Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl! Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective and cold blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become…” Che Guevara.

"(T)o execute a man we don't need proof of his guilt. We only need proof that it's necessary to execute him. It's that simple." Che Guevara.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” -Barack "Untouchable" Obama

Is that "Che-nge we can believe in?"

tomder55 · Jun 16, 2008, 07:41 AM

yeah I read that Obama quote

McCain was quick to point out that it is a strange quote to be using for someone who is against hand-gun ownership.

John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President

I'm more concerned of course that the CIC bring a gun to a fight with Jihadistan.

BABRAM · Jun 16, 2008, 07:34 PM

Barack used “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” as a metaphor. Which ironically means more bad new for Republicans, since he's not going to coward down like Kerry did in '04.

As for concealed carry and banning of handguns, nobody is going to pry 650 million handguns away from the US citizens fingers, not Obama and Congress, nobody. There would be breakouts of chaos and militias across the country. In Vegas a weapon for self-defence is not an option. People who think calling 911 is going to get you served adequate protection in a timely manner are only making prearrangement's for their own funerals.

Skell · Jun 16, 2008, 09:30 PM

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People who think calling 911 is going to get you served adequate protection in a timely manner are only making prearrangement's for their own funerals.

Maybe that means there needs to be more money spent on policing at home, as opposed to the money spent policing Iraq. Then maybe, just maybe, the gun culture may begin to fade.

speechlesstx · Jun 17, 2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skell

Maybe that means there needs to be more money spent on policing at home, as opposed to the money spent policing Iraq. Then maybe, just maybe, the gun culture may begin to fade.

Skell,

Notice he said "in Vegas." Vegas is a whole other world



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