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Apr 8, 2007, 08:30 AM
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Apr 8, 2007, 08:40 AM
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| Rather scary isn't it? we are lab animals for the food and drug industries. A lot of my food I grow and can on my own plus I raise a few pigs for the table to cut down on the chemicals I consume, but I still have concerns about pollen drift from the corn crop next door.-- Savage |
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Apr 8, 2007, 05:20 PM
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| That pollen drift could hybridize all strains untill they are useless. Then every one will have to buy patented corn seed from Monsanto. Things are getting strange! |
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Apr 11, 2007, 10:05 PM
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| What are these genetically engineered substances? The ingredients on the back spelled with fourteen letters? And does anyone have a clue why they are doing this? |
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Apr 12, 2007, 02:05 AM
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| the engineered substances are the vegetables /grain that is used to make your food. They are taking a corn seed and inserting the dna from lets say a clam to make it grow faster -- or be more resistant to bugs etc.
why are they doing this ? money /greed / money -- Savage |
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Apr 12, 2007, 02:11 AM
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| I don't really see a difference between this and selective breeding, which has been used for hundreds of years and nobody has complained about. Some of our cattle breeds that have been created through selective breeding can no longer mate, the breed would not exist if it weren't for human intervention. I see very little difference between this and genetic modification, It's just faster and cross-species now. |
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Apr 12, 2007, 02:34 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Capuchin I don't really see a difference between this and selective breeding, which has been used for hundreds of years and nobody has complained about. Some of our cattle breeds that have been created through selective breeding can no longer mate, the breed would not exist if it weren't for human intervention. I see very little difference between this and genetic modification, It's just faster and cross-species now. |
When they selectively breed cows to lets say produce more milk, Did they cross it with a fish to get the results they wanted?
My big worry is how do you contain it to save the pure strains. A lot of the seeds they produce are sterile, whats going to happen when they pollinate non altered crops?
When they have been breeding corn with a organic pesticides in it worms are building up a resistance to the pesticides which will mean the farmers that use it will have to turn to chemicals which = more money for the big cooperations. We are also seeing weeds becoming resistant to the better herbicides due to this. -- Savage |
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Apr 12, 2007, 02:37 AM
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| Capuchin is right. That is fear mongering, junk science. Much of it comes from the Europeans that American technology has left behind. They can't compete honestly, so are working at denying the world the benefits of the new technology out of their selfish greed. |
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Apr 12, 2007, 06:44 AM
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| It really is fear mongering, however i'm certain that Americans are doing plenty of fearmongering themselves, It's a very american point of view that you are so far advanced over Europe, I dont really believe that to be the case either  - Maybe it's the opposite of fearmongering, i believe it's called blowing your own horn. Of course the media in one country is going to try to portray themselves as so far ahead of other countries, especially the american media, national identity is very strong over there. I don't particularly regard it to be true. |
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Apr 12, 2007, 07:54 AM
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| Hello:
Although adding antibiotics to your cows isn't the same thing, it WAS brought to you by the same people, and that didn't turn out so good. I love science, but sometimes I think we leap before we look.
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