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Jul 1, 2008, 10:45 AM
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| | | A Vote for McBush is a Vote for Iran War A vote for McBush is a vote for a War on Iran.
How do you like the War of Adventurism against Iraq which will last 100 years or until America destroys itself economically? Do you think that our colony Iraq, a future colony of Iran, and add another colony perhaps in Afghanistan will ever be in the least bit successful for our purposes as Resource Wars?
Bush said, in his *third reason* for going to war on Iraq, that indeed, it was about *OIL*. WHAT A FIASCO FOR ALL CONCERNED EXCEPT OIL MEN.
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Jul 2, 2008, 10:24 AM
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| I got another one for you then
per capita the gun ownership in Canada and Switzerland is greater than in the US . and yet the gun violence is less . That would make one think that if perhaps more Americans were armed that the rate of gun violence would also drop eh ? |
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Jul 2, 2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 per capita the gun ownership in Canada and Switzerland is greater than in the US . | I find that stat very hard to believe. But if canadians do have more guns they are shotguns for hunting. The lesser gun violence stat represents that fact that they are far less desperate people in these countries than in the US, or maybe they prize life to a higher degree (i.e. the taking of a life is not as glorified as it is in the US). |
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Jul 2, 2008, 10:36 AM
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| oops posted it on the wrong Q . but yes ;even Michael Moore mentioned that oddity in 'Bowling for Columbine'. |
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Jul 2, 2008, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 I got another one for you then
per capita the gun ownership in Canada and Switzerland is greater than in the US . and yet the gun violence is less . That would make one think that if perhaps more Americans were armed that the rate of gun violence would also drop eh ? | Absolutely Correct, it has been proven in areas that have adopted a more liberal concealed carry policy, that having more of the honest citizens armed, DOES reduce violent crime, with or without a firearm being involved.
It only makes sense. I recall that Sheriff in GA., who required EVERY citizen to poses a firearm inside their home. Yes, they even made it a law. The violent crime rate dropped dramatically. Believe it or not, the surrounding counties, without this new law, saw large increases in the violent crime rates after this county became "ARMED".
Criminals may be dumb, but they are not so stupid when it comes to not wanting to be hurt or killed, that is just a plain animal instinct, to survive.
They WILL avoid a situation where there is a good possibility that the victim could be armed and defend themselves and will choose a more likely defenseless victim instead. |
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Jul 3, 2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 Achamp
you rant about taxes and then say that Obama ;who has promised to raise them pretty much across the board , is the right choice? |
Correction, I said "seems" like the right choice. In all honesty I could care less at this point.
I am sick and tired of working my butt off 40+ hours a week for just above minimum wage praying for the next increase just to find out that they raised the taxes to build a freaking dome for the all great and wonderful Colts when the one they have works just fine. If they don't know how to play in the snow they need to take their a**es to Warren Central High School and practice on their million dollar football field. And if they still aren't happy then they should take a pay cut and see if they can live on just 1/4 of a million a year instead a full million. And all they do is FREAKIN ENTERTAIN America by chasing an oval ball around a field and knocking eachother around!!!! I know what I am going to tell my son's to focus on... "now boys, learn how to play ball, any kind of ball, because that is where the money is nowadays. Don't you worry about learning how to read leave that to the one's that will have to punch a time clock everyday. You just figure out how to get real buff and chase around a ball real well, and you'll be RICH!!" Or become a porn star.
It's ridiculus!!! I can't believe how incredibly LAZY this country has gotten!!! I hear people that are on welfare griping about how they still can't pay their bills but smoke $5 a pack cigarettes, have a fridge full of alcohol, got to the bar at least twice a week and are going to the mall to buy $40 shirts. I MEAN COME ON!!!
As far as I am concerned politicians are ALL crooked and are ALL out to benefit themselves and only themselves. I am beginning to think that the number of people that truly care about "America" is few and far between now. Between Jerry Springer, Maurie, and all the ridiculus reality shows this country has gone from hard-working american's that would give their neighbors the shirt off their back to non-working americans trying to steal their neighbors shirt off their back.
In reference to the gun thing... the government is all over that here too. They don't want anyone to have too many guns or to big of guns for fear of a revolution. If you buy guns on a regular basis they check you out and come to your house. They watch every move you make. I mean that is obvious when it takes 25 city cops, a swat team and bears in the air to take down one freakin guy armed with a double barrell shotgun that only wants to kill himself. Then after they have stormed his house removed his gun, destroyed every room in the house, and beat the living tar out of him all 75 armed and fully padded officers give each other high fives and big ol' pats on the back." good job guys" " couldn't have done that one without ya". And what did the guy that just wanted to kill himself get, 2 years in the pen having surgery to his rear end and all of his debt building up and the IRS itching to get him as soon as he gets out. If he isn't murdered before then. I recall the old military sign..with Uncle Sam pointing out and it reads HE WANTS YOU. Your damn right he does only it should say HE WANTS YOUR MONEY AND TO HELL WITH YOU.
And we are supposed to call them when we need help. Are you kidding me? First words out of ANY dispatcher's mouth when you call the cops on someone else or to help you out is ... "And your name is...?" If someone is getting shot 3 houses down what the hell do you need to know MY name for? JUST FREAKIN SAVE EM!!!
Oh and by the way you aren't allowed to so much as raise a hand to your own flesh and blood children, or anyone else for that matter, even if they are trying to beat you up, but you tell a cop to f off and what happens... you wake up in a cell with only one eye able to open and a mouth full of blood. Hypocritical dontcha think? But that's the government. We pay EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM TO RAPE US REPEATEDLY UNTIL WE DIE. then they get anything that's left. |
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Jul 3, 2008, 08:39 AM
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| Couldn't agree with you more.
A call to 911 is only good for getting a report filed, and the bodies collected, after everything has already happened.
It is up to you, to defend your life, and the lives of your loved ones. |
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Jul 3, 2008, 10:05 AM
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| To the original post: Unless someone can get Iran to give up its pursuit of nuclear weapons, the cold hard fact is that there will be a war with them. Either before or after they launch a warhead, probably against Israel. If Iran and Israel get into it in a big way, is there any chance that other countries, including us, will be able to stay out of it? I doubt it will make any difference who is in the oval office. |
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Jul 3, 2008, 10:16 AM
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| Well Gal the jury is still out on whether Iran is indeed a threat in the nuclear sense: washingtonpost.com Quote: Ex-Agent Says CIA Ignored Iran Facts
A former CIA operative who says he tried to warn the agency about faulty intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs now contends that CIA officials also ignored evidence that Iran had suspended work on a nuclear bomb.
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Jul 3, 2008, 10:27 AM
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I know what I am going to tell my son's to focus on... "now boys, learn how to play ball, any kind of ball, because that is where the money is nowadays.
| teach them to throw with their left hand...they will be set for life. :>
Achamp I hear ya . there is an attempt to condition us to rely on them. |
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Jul 3, 2008, 10:28 AM
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CIA officials also ignored evidence that Iran had suspended work on a nuclear bomb.
| was that before or after the Israelis made rubble of their nuke plant in Syria ? |
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