Republicans vote FOR rape

excon · Oct 22, 2009, 03:41 PM

Hello:

Silly Republicans. 30 of 'em who call themselves Senators voted AGAINST an amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill that would STOP federal funding for contractors that FORCED victims of assault to settle their claims through arbitration. The amendment stemmed from what happened to Jamie Lee Jones in Iraq when she worked for KBR, where she was brutally assaulted by co-workers.

Republican Senator Jeff Sessions said the amendment was “a political attack by Senator Al Franken aimed at Haliburton.” Senator Franken pointed out that no contractor was named in the amendment, not that it would matter to anyone so idiotic as to vote against an assault protection amendment.

These are the same Senators who are calling for an investigation of ACORN where only PRETEND prostitution was considered, but who don't want an investigation into a company where REAL rapes happen.

The mere idea that arbitration would shield a company from ANY wrongdoing while at the same time that company is receiving OUR TAX DOLLARS is beyond the pale.

excon

asking · Oct 23, 2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

... I think Jamie Lee Jones could persue this in court and win because it was a criminal act against her. To my knowlege she has not persued ANY judicial or criminal redress at all. So far all I see is her testifing to Congress and setting up web sites. If I'm wrong about that please correct me.

Apparently, KBR is pretty much immune from criminal law in Iraq. In short, a criminal charge is not an option either and the Department of Justice has not pursued any charges. It has taken her three years to get the right to bring a civil suit.

tomder55 · Oct 23, 2009, 09:20 AM

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Apparently, KBR is pretty much immune from criminal law in Iraq.

So I've heard . But surely they aren't immune to US law. Has she persued it beyond the congressional testimony and the PR campaign ?

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the Department of Justice has not pursued any charges

Not even that bastion of fair play Eric Holder ?

speechlesstx · Oct 23, 2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

I dunno what she's doing. But, she has a lawyer, and lawyers sue people. They don't make money when their client goes on TV. Maybe she's laying the foundation first. That ain't dumb. Or she's trying to guilt trip Halliburton into settling with her. That ain't dumb either.

You'd think the courts ruled in Halliburton's favor but they didn't.

tomder55 · Oct 23, 2009, 09:27 AM

thanks Steve . I stand corrected about that.

tomder55 · Oct 23, 2009, 09:35 AM

asking

Title 18, Part I, Chapter 1, § 7, of the United States Code, entitled "Special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States defined,"
says the United States has jurisdiction over the following:

"(7) Any place outside the jurisdiction of any nation with respect to an offense by or against a national of the United States."[

So the Coalition Provisional Authority order 17 you refer to has no meaning regarding US law .It only states that contractors were immune from Iraqi law.

tomder55 · Oct 23, 2009, 09:38 AM

Steve

On September 15, 2009 the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans ruled Jamie Leigh Jones' federal lawsuit against KBR can be tried in open court.
Appeals court sends KBR rape case to court | National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC)

speechlesstx · Oct 23, 2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Steve

On September 15, 2009 the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans ruled Jamie Leigh Jones' federal lawsuit against KBR acan be tried in open court.
Appeals court sends KBR rape case to court | National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC)

Another good pickup, tom.

ETWolverine · Oct 23, 2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I know you have more respect for corporations than women but some feel otherwise.

I know I'm going to kick myself for doing this, but can you please explain how your post responds to my points?

The laws that Franken put forward does a great job of PUNISHING CORPORATIONS... but how does that protect a single woman from being raped? How does it keep women safe?

Answer: it doesn't.

The law is an attack on corporations but offers no benefit to women.

Elliot

ETWolverine · Oct 23, 2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So the 75% of Republican congressmen who voted FOR it are not as savvy as you?

Yes, but we already knew that. The other 25% aren't either.

ETWolverine · Oct 23, 2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Wow, I'm speechless.

No, THIS is speechless.

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You are NeedKarma.

Stop being so confused.

Elliot