Originally Posted by excon
Nobody is talking about Obama's popularity. We're talking about his effectiveness. We're talking about the fact that what he has been doing is similar to what Bush did in many instances, but on a much larger scale, and yet nobody who complained about Bush is complaining about Obama.
You were hired to fix things, and I'm sure you did a wonderful job at it. But Obama wasn't elected to fix things... he was elected to CHANGE them. Huge difference.
Is Obama fixing things? It's too soon to tell.
Really? OK, what would be the appropriate time to judge whether he's fixing things or not?
I'm talking simply about the economy, though. He HAS gone a long way to restoring our badly damaged reputation in the world.
Really? In what way?
What I see is a President who has been taking such socialist actions in the US economy that world leaders of socialist countries are complaining that he's acting too socialist. I see him meeting with Russian bigwigs like Putin and getting lectured like a little schoolboy... and just sitting there and taking it. And THEN he goes out and makes speeches at Moscow University about how the USA and Reagan were NOT the impitus for the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. I see him giving interviews about how people like Lech Wallesa were more important to the fall of the USSR than Reagan, even though in a letter from Wallessa, he stated himself tha Reagan was the responsible party. Obama is acting like a pansy on the world stage. He's letting world leaders treat him like a child. He's allowing other countries to dictate the state of our military preparedness. He's trying to negotiate with dictators who have no intention of negotiating in good faith.
Let's not forget that the real reason the Obama went to Russia was to negotiate permission to transport military ground equiment through Russian territory into Afghanistan. He not only failed in that mission (or rather he negotiated a deal with so many caveats that we will never be able to meet them) but he also ended up negotiating a nuclear disarmament treaty that strongly favors Russia over the USA. He folded like a wet towel.
Bush may have been hated around the world. They may have hated him for his military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. MAYBE. It seems that at least a few leaders followed him. But I'll grant you that he wasn't well liked at all in many circles.
But Obama is a lightweight, and he's proving it over and over again. Oh, sure, all the world leaders like him. They like him the way they like a clown... good for a laugh. He's becoming the laughingstock of the international community for his naïveté, willingness to kowtow, and the quickness with which he becomes an apologist.
Excon, you can look at Obama and say that he's improving our image in the world all you want. The facts on the ground say different.
But I know I shouldn't confuse you with the facts. Let's just give him time to do more of the same... regardless of the consequences of those actions.
Watch what they do, not what they say... and what Obama is doing is both laughable and scary at the same time.