Outraged Democrats are on the attack over Bush's speech to the Knesset in which he said this:


The Obama campaign issued a statement in which he said, "It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack

"George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicisation of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally, Israel."

I guess that isn't a problem since Obama "reframed" his position.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino responded:


I think Bush and Perino were both right. And you?

tomder55

Just remember one thing ....the architect is no longer at the White House so it is not plausable that this episode is a diabolical plot to provoke Obamamania into a melt-down.

A dog yelping ? It sounds to me like the whole pack is braying at the moon.But Jimmy Carter has been conspicuosly silent ;which is suprising since his second term is at stake here.

speechlesstx

I suppose Biden's response wasn't "beneath the dignity of the office"


I think it's funny that Hillary would be critical considering the remarks her hubby made in Dubai back in 2005.

Back in 2001 on Crossfire, Tucker Carlson was asking Paul Begala about a memo written by James Carville, Stan Greenberg and Bob Schrum that called 9/11 "a moment of opportunity for Democrats." Begala responded with "politics stop at the water's edge. But on our side of that water."

The outrage today is amusing.

progunr

If this isn't funny enough, I just heard the punch line!

President Bush finally admitted today that in deed, his remarks were intended for someone specific.

Former President Jimmy Carter.

OK Mr. Obama, you may now remove your foot from your mouth.

magprob

If I were out only to steal someone's oil, land and whatever else I could get my hands on, I wouldn't want to face them, let alone talk to them. I would Demonize them by telling everyone that they are animals that cannot be reasoned with. Non-Humans, not worth my breath nor my time.

progunr

These people, and I do use the term loosely, don't need any help with being demonized, they do a great job of demonizing themselves with their idiotic beliefs.

Why don't some of you terrorist appeasers tell us, what is the first question for the man who denies the holocaust even happened and has a mission to eliminate Israel from the face of the planet?

What do you think YOU could say that will make him go "holy crap, you are right, I've been wrong all along"!!

Negotiate with terrorists. That is a most moronic idea, being pushed by, well, morons.

excon

Hello again:

I dunno. I suppose you just don't understand what diplomacy is. Not surprising...

You don't negotiate with your enemy to change his mind. You negotiate with him to make a deal. He doesn't have to like you or agree with you in order to make a deal with you. You don't really think we've been agreed with or liked by all the countries we've made deals/treaties with throughout the world, do you?

Well, I suppose according your what you're saying now, you think they all just love us. I dunno how guys think.

It's like I said. You don't really understand the art of diplomacy. Neither does anybody in your party.

excon

progunr

OK. What did I say that would make you believe, that I believe, that "they" love us?

Just the opposite, they wish to eliminate everyone who does not share their beliefs, from the face of the earth.

If the idea is not to make them change their mind, but to make a deal, what kind of deal do we make with people who believe that they are on a mission from God, to destroy anyone who does not believe the same things that they do?

Do you really believe that there is a diplomatic solution to that?

What would you offer that could beat all those virgins when they get to heaven?

excon

Hello again progunr:

Again, I don't think you understand the nature of our enemy. HE'S not the guy strapping bombs on his body. He's not the guy who's dreaming about virgins.

HE'S the guy who SENDS the guy with bombs strapped to his body. Our enemy is living a good life. HE USES fanatics to do his dirty work. But you shouldn't believe for a minute that he's fanatic himself. HE can be negotiated with.

excon

tomder55

Here is diplomacy at it's best . Reagan came in and called the Soviets the Evil Empire and for years would NOT negotiate with them . And the libs complained that he would not talk to the Soviets even though his predecessors had.

Instead he built up our strength.... and the libs complained ; then he began forward deployment of Pershing Missiles. and the libs complained. Then he began research in what was derided as "star wars " technology and the libs complained that he was starting a new arms race

Then and only then did he agree to meet with the new Soviet leader who was comitted to reform ;after many hours of their diplomatic corp hashing out an agenda .They met with preconditions and with a reasonable chance that an agenda could be acheived . THAT is Diplomacy.

Tell me what basis does Israel have for meeting with Hamas ? The Israelis gave away their bargaining chips when they walked away from Gaza . For their gesture they are subject to daily rocket barrages from Gaza.

excon

Hello again, tom:

It's good right wing spin. It's just not true. Reagan wouldn't talk with them true, but WE HAD DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THEM. Our DIPLOMATS were talking, and talking PLENTY. There was a RED telephone connection between the Kremlin and Washington, DC., even if it wasn't used.

THAT isn't what we have today with BUSH'S enemy's. When he says he's not talking, he's not talking. We have NO embassy's - no diplomats - nothing.

To my way of thinking, it's just plain stupid. It IS what I expect from the dufus in chief, though.

excon