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Jun 2, 2009, 06:27 AM
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In another thread I complained of groups like PP imposing their agenda on our children without regard to parental values. Don't worry about it I was told, who's saying the parents can't be the parents? Here we go... Quote: Calif. District Creates Primary School Gay Curriculum
Monday, June 1, 2009 3:24 PM
By: Rick Pedraza
Elementary school teachers in Alameda, Calif., will introduce lesson plans to their educational curriculum beginning next year that address gay and lesbian issues, KCBS News in San Francisco reports.
Kindergarten through grade 5 students throughout the county will be exposed to same-sex educational material aimed at promoting tolerance and inclusiveness.
The curriculum –– which will include lessons to introduce students to “LGBT” (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transsexual) issues –– will be designed to discourage bullying and teasing based on gay and lesbian stereotypes. The plan will be implemented despite objections by parents who complain children are too young to be exposed to the material.
Many parents are condemning the lesson plan as sex education in disguise and are angered that they will not be allowed to exempt their children from the lessons. Opponents decry the curriculum plan as an effort to advance the gay, lesbian and transgendered agenda.
Those opposed to sexual orientation lessons for children are so upset they are threatening to sue the school board, ABC News reports. Promoting gay, lesbian and sexual orientation should be a parents' rights issue, parents say, and is not an appropriate topic for school children.
The Alameda school district's legal counsel, however, recommended the plan because the curriculum does not deal with health or sex education, which are topics that do require opt-out provisions.
“It was the opinion of our legal counsel that this curriculum was not health or sex education curriculum,” school board president Mike McMahon told CNS New.
“If a student responds that one family in the book is made up of a mother, a father, and two children and a cat, you may acknowledge that some families look like this, but ask students for other examples of what a family can look like.”
School Board Member Trish Spencer, who voted against the plan, said she worries that its implementation could lead to the harassment of students who have religious objections to homosexuality. She cited that bullying due to religion is a bigger problem for the district than bullying based on homosexuality.
Also adamantly opposed to the plan is Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families.
“This will be done whether parents like it or not, and it shows the hostility against parental rights and traditional family values,” Thomasson, told CNS New.
Last month, the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 8, the voter-approved initiative to make same-sex marriage illegal that passed in November.
The Alameda school board said it will review its decision to implement the curriculum at the end of next year’s school session.
| Is it the public school's place to instill their values in our children in spite of parental objections - or at all? Or does the public 'benefit' outweigh parental rights?
For all of you who think government should get out of the marriage business, should they get out of the parenting business such as this example, too?
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Jun 2, 2009, 09:46 AM
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| If the parents don't like what the school is teaching them take them out of the school. If parents are that concerned maybe they should home school their children. Then they can teach their kids to hate the same things they hate. Problem solved.
Tom I agree with the entire "Hate Crime" aren't all violent crimes hate crimes.
Ex I saw that Jesus Camp. That was disturbing. Those counselors broke the kids down to tears. Such A Shame. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by excon  Who's gonna decide who's being responsible? | Who's going to decide they're not? | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx Who's going to decide they're not? | Hello again, Steve:
Janet Napolitano.
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spitvenom If the parents don't like what the school is teaching them take them out of the school. If parents are that concerned maybe they should home school their children. Then they can teach their kids to hate the same things they hate. Problem solved. | A lot of people can't just up and move their kids to another school or home school them. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:12 AM
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A lot of people can't just up and move their kids to another school or home school them
| especially since the party of choice doesn't believe in educational choice. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello again, Steve:
Janet Napolitano. | She of the right-wing extremist papers? Why not just assign Bill Ayers or the good Rev. Wright as the parenting czar? | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx She of the right-wing extremist papers? | Hello again, Steve:
No. She the head COP with all the power in the world (that you right wingers gave her, by the way). Yeah, if I was you, I'd be nervous.
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PS> This is the time I usually say to you, that if you don't look after the OTHER GUY'S rights, yours may be next. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 especially since the party of choice doesn't believe in educational choice. | Catholic School or public school There is the choice Tom. If a parent was serious about this they would find away to afford to send their kid to catholic school my parents did and we were Broke. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:45 AM
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| Maybe you should look at the vote on that act...90-9 in the Senate and 295-132 in the House. | |
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Jun 2, 2009, 10:47 AM
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| there are more private school options than Catholic schools. There are private schools that the elites like the Obama's patron.
But his instinct was to stop the voucher program(in the omnibus spending bill for fiscal year 2009 ) for underprivilaged students to attend these elite schools in DC . He doesn't believe poor people should have educational choices. Nor do the Senate Democrats who voted 50 to 39 to squash an amendment to extend the voucher program. | |
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