Palin and her Witch Hunting Pastor

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 05:33 AM

Hello:

So, if some black politician, perhaps by the name of Obama, had a Pastor who is an ACTIVE witch hunter, do you think Sean Hannity and the Limp one would make a big deal about it? I think they would.

Well, guess what?

excon

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 06:53 AM

Hello again, guys:

Well, you'd certainly think it was hatred if you were the one accused of being a witch.

You guy's, of course, DRANK the religion koolaid, so you'll NEVER see the hatred in your church. Oh, you can see it in the OTHER guys church, like OBAMA'S, but not your own.....

I say again, bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

speechlesstx · Sep 25, 2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, guys:

Well, you'd certainly think it was hatred if you were the one accused of being a witch.

If you could show me where he accused someone of being a witch in that prayer - which is the point of discussion here isn't it - I'd jump over to your side. Thanks to some digging I found the source of this tale, and the claims I've found that Muthee ran this woman out of town, gathered up a mob and went after her, got the police involved who fired shots and killed one of her pets and all the other whimsical claims about Palin's alleged "mentor" come up empty. Here's where it's apparently all based according to the Charleston Gazzette:

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Targeting cities with 'spiritual mapping,' prayer
Jane Lampman, Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
BOSTON—

Can the 'spiritual DNA' of a community be altered?" That's the question posed in a Christian video called "Transformations."

Kenyan pastor Thomas Muthee is convinced that it can be. In 1988, he and his wife, Margaret, were "called by God to Kiambu," a notorious, violence-ridden suburb of Nairobi and a "ministry graveyard" for churches for years. They began six months of fervent prayer and research.

Pondering the message of Eph.6:12 ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world..."), they prayed to identify the source of Kiambu's spiritual oppression, Mr. Muthee says. Their answer: the spirit of witchcraft.

Their research into the community revealed that a woman called "Mama Jane" ran a "divination clinic" frequented by the town's most powerful people.

After months of prayer, Muthee held a crusade that "brought about 200 people to Christ." Their church in the basement of a grocery store was dubbed "The Prayer Cave," as members set up round-the-clock intercession. Mama Jane counterattacked, he says, but eventually "the demonic influence - the 'principality' over Kiambu - was broken," and she left town.

The atmosphere changed dramatically: Bars closed, the crime rate dropped, people began to move to the area, and the economy took an upturn. The church now has 5,000 members, he says, and 400 members meet to pray daily at 6 a.m.

I didn't see anything about "His preaching roused angry residents who wanted to stone the woman to death." Did you? It just says that after "round-the-clock" prayer "she left town."

"Bars closed, the crime rate dropped, people began to move to the area, and the economy took an upturn."

That sounds rather positive to me.

tomder55 · Sep 25, 2008, 07:40 AM

wow look at all that reasearch over a single guest priest saying a single prayer on behalf of Palin!!! All with the intent to smear her.
If only the press would devote such resource to answer lingering unanswered questions about Obama that are ongoing now for almost 2 years .

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I didn't see anything about "His preaching roused angry residents who wanted to stone the woman to death." Did you? It just says that after "round-the-clock" prayer "she left town."

"Bars closed, the crime rate dropped, people began to move to the area, and the economy took an upturn."

That sounds rather positive to me.

Hello again, Steve:

Let's be clear. She wasn't hated any LESS because they ran her out of town instead of stoning her.

Next. For you to 1) believe that things improved when the witch was driven out of town, and 2) for you to say it was a positive experience, tells me that you drank MORE than your share of koolaid.

excon

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

All with the intent to smear her.

Hello again, tom:

So, the Republican intent wasn't to SMEAR, but to INFORM. Ok, I got it.

All I can say to THAT bunch of drek, is bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

speechlesstx · Sep 25, 2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Let's be clear. She wasn't hated any LESS because they ran her out of town instead of stoning her.

Next. For you to 1) believe that things improved when the witch was driven out of town, and 2) for you to say it was a positive experience, tells me that you drank MORE than your share of koolaid.

Um, ex, I think the point here is nowhere did the source of this tale say anything about her being "ran out of town," any hatred of the woman or any indication he confronted her with anything but prayers - intercession - in their church. It does say "she left town," apparently of her own accord. Those are not insignificant details.

Whether one believes in this "demonic influence" or not the article tells a story of a pastor who went into "a notorious, violence-ridden suburb of Nairobi" which took an upturn after prayer. Coincidence? If Wright (who by Obama's own admission actually was his mentor as opposed to a visiting pastor praying a blessing) had stuck to praying for blessings instead of ranting on conspiracies against the black man there wouldn't be anything to discuss there either.

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Um, ex, I think the point here is nowhere did the source of this tale say anything about her being "ran out of town," any hatred of the woman or any indication he confronted her with anything but prayers - intercession - in their church. It does say "she left town," apparently of her own accord. Those are not insignificant details.

Hello again, Steve:

No they're not.

However, if you believe that the only thing that happened in this town, is that the witch was prayed for, you've drunk too much of the koolaid for me to bring you back. There was hope for you once.. But, you've gone over to the dark side.

For being a Christian type fellow, I don't think you understand how Christians actually practice their Christianity. Ever hear of Salem?

excon

inthebox · Sep 25, 2008, 11:14 AM

And what does the other VP candidate say about religion?

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God, Patriotism and Taxes - WSJ.com

raising taxes on the rich is the "patriotic" thing to do. On Thursday he upped the ante, thundering that he also has Jesus in his corner. "Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most," Mr. Biden preached to a group of union supporters on Thursday....

By the way, Mr. Biden and his wife recently released their tax returns, and they reported an average of $380, or0.2% of their income, in annual charitable contributions over a 10-year period. The national average was about 2% of income.

I don't hear the MSM or the liberals out there ranting about a Biden theocracy?......
One that believes that charity is a government fuction, which excuses their hypocrisy when it comes to personal charity.

Maybe its because it concurs with the higher taxes leftist / socialist doctrine.

excon · Sep 25, 2008, 11:23 AM

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And what does the other VP candidate say about religion? I don't hear the MSM or the liberals out there ranting about a [b]Biden theocracy.. Maybe its because it concurs with the higher taxes leftist / socialist doctrine.

Hello in:

Couple things. So, Biden is living his Christianity, and you want to call it his theocracy??? That's silly.

Next. Higher taxes on who? You??? I highly doubt it. Under Obama, YOUR taxes will be lowered if you make under $250,000 a year. Of course, you could be a wealthy rightwinger. I dunno.

excon

inthebox · Sep 25, 2008, 11:29 AM

How is Biden living his Christianity when he does not even tithe?

O.2% to charity !!!

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Biblical tax rates tended to run around 10%, not the 39.6%-plus that Barack Obama's tax plan calls for.



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