I'm curious whether Congress, in its wisdom, will enhance federalism by allowing states to (somehow) opt out of mandatory health care. It sounds like a progressive paradox, a little sugar to help swallow a bitter pill. But might Congress unintentionally provide ammo to the 10th amendment believers who wish to construct a wall of separation between the federal and state governments? "I am in favor of the clear, bold step represented by HCR 50, introduced by Representative Creighton, and co-authored by Representative Guillen. It’s clear that this is not a partisan issue: it concerns all Americans, and all Texans.

"The Tenth Amendment was enacted by folks who remembered what it was like to be under the thumb of a distant, all-powerful government. Unfortunately, the protections it guarantees have melted away over time."
Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Speeches - Gov. Perry Speaks in Support of States' Rights

tomder55

Steve ;he's trying to divert the discussion of this op because even he can't defend the scam by the Reid Democrats.

speechlesstx

It's obvious he's run out of arguments, maybe he should stick to the Obama as dufus posts.

excon

Hello again:

The reason I didn't address the OP, because at this stage in the negotiations, what's IN the bill one minute, is OUT the next...

So, opting in or opting out is just another chip in the negotiations...

You're right about one thing.. I don't see the scam Reid is trying to pass off. I just see him trying to get a bill passed ANY way he can, even if it means watering it down to where it means NOTHING. Letting states opt in or out, means the pubic option LOSES its effect... That should make you happy. But, I can't tell what makes you happy these days.

Yes, I do. If we were talking about WAR, you'd be tickled pink. But, talk about something that might be good for US, no way, Jose.

excon

speechlesstx

Do you think forcing American citizens to purchase goods or services under threat of penalty as a requirement for citizenship is a good thing?

excon

Hello again, Steve:

No. That's why these half a$$ed attempts won't work, and single payer would.

excon

speechlesstx

So you prefer coercion. I prefer freedom over either.

excon

Hello again, Steve:

Well, coercion in the sense that I'm coerced into paying my taxes. Kinda like you're not coerced into paying every time you use a public highway or when they drop a bomb on somebody.

Like you, I'd prefer freedom over taxes... But, I'm not gonna go to jail over it.

excon

twinkiedooter

I personally think the death panels are in place now and will continue regardless if we opt in or out of whatever. The present death panels are called "insurance companies". Medicare has them but they're called Medicare.

George_1950

"The Medicare end-of-life planning provision that 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said was tantamount to "death panels" for seniors is staying in the latest Democratic health care bill unveiled Thursday." So-Called 'Death Panel' Measure Survives in House Health Bill - Political News - FOXNews.com

excon

Hello again, George:

Then opting in or out ain't gonna matter too much if they're gonna knock you off anyway.

excon