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May 4, 2008, 05:49 PM
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| | | Obama's worldwide war on poverty Have you heard anything about Obama sponsored legislation that would take .7% of our gnp and use it to fight world poverty? The account I read says it could come to vote in the Senate very soon. I guess he is not satisfied with the 300 billion or so that we now send abroad. We can't afford him in the Senate, much less in the White House! | | | | | | |
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May 7, 2008, 09:42 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BABRAM Wow! "Alleged sex abuse, poachers, and child abuse claims" is the Republicans newest excuse for backing out of commitment to help the impoverished worldwide. Like that's never happened in the US. What a great week! |
Bobby, so you don't mind trusting sexual abusers, poachers, and child abusers with impoverished children? |
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May 7, 2008, 10:00 AM
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| Doesn't seem to bother McCainites in the US, perhaps we can hang our hat on Iraq being the model 100 years from now. Yeah! Go ahead and let the children starve in the Congo. Why care?! |
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May 7, 2008, 10:13 AM
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| years of aid giving to Mugabe's Zimbabwe has only resulted in increased poverty and starvation. It is an endless sieve unless the government where the aid is going to is willing to let it go to the people. But you can wash your hands of that reality by opening your wallet to give more to enable the scam . |
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May 7, 2008, 11:06 AM
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| Then cut your nose off spite your face. I do think our government should keep it obligations for all the good actions, in which by the way GW Bush actually agrees, in helping the impoverished worldwide as opposed to a few incidents in select countries. I doubt you stopped donating to the Catholic church because of small percentage of child molesting priests. |
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May 7, 2008, 11:10 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BABRAM Then cut your nose off spite your face. I do think our government should keep it obligations for all the good actions, in which by the way GW Bush actually agrees, in helping the impoverished worldwide as opposed to a few incidents in select countries. I doubt you stopped donating to the Catholic church because of small percentage of child molesting priests. |
There exists a HUGE difference between "donating" and being "stolen" from.
When I donate, I decide how much and who to give it to.
When the government takes my money, it is legalized theft, period. |
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May 7, 2008, 11:43 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BABRAM Doesn't seem to bother McCainites in the US, perhaps we can hang our hat on Iraq being the model 100 years from now. Yeah! Go ahead and let the children starve in the Congo. Why care?! |
Such drama lately - in spite of what you've already been told to the contrary. Of course we care, just as said before. If the aid already given doesn't reach the people, what makes you think it will if we just give more? In Iraq we at least have boots on the ground actively assisting the Iraqis. We're ready to do so in Myanmar, the US Navy is poised to help but the military junta there is too paranoid to even allow air drops, let alone boots on the ground with supplies, equipment and manpower.
I'm all for assistance, but let's find something more effective than what we have now. For example, I support World Vision regularly - 86% of their revenue goes to programs - food, education, agricultural training, crops, medical care, etc. They get outstanding marks for accountability, the aid gets to the people that need the help. Makes more sense than feeding a corrupt, inefficient body that can't keep its own people from abusing the ones they are sent to help. |
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May 7, 2008, 11:49 AM
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| More and more, I am convinced that "liberalism" is a contagious form of insanity! |
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May 7, 2008, 11:51 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Galveston1 More and more, I am convinced that "liberalism" is a contagious form of insanity! |
Well put! Couldn't agree more. |
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May 7, 2008, 11:53 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by speechlesstx I'm all for assistance, but let's find something more effective than what we have now. For example, I support World Vision regularly - 86% of their revenue goes to programs - food, education, agricultural training, crops, medical care, etc. They get outstanding marks for accountability, the aid gets to the people that need the help. Makes more sense than feeding a corrupt, inefficient body that can't keep its own people from abusing the ones they are sent to help. |
So let's reiterate: liberals don't really care about the results, and instead want to be rewarded by their intentions. And then the pols get into the public, in the press, and thump their chests about all the aid they've given...blah, blah, blah; just wasted tax dollars, enriching fellow world travelers and grandstanders. You remember the feds handing out debit cards! Yow! Aren't we goooooooooooood!!!!! (Stealing from Ann to pay Allison). |
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May 7, 2008, 12:14 PM
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| Red herring and excuses. None of our personal charities represent the government's commitments internationally and besides what you declared is used as write off to non-profit organizations. In the last last seven and half years of recent US history, we have all survived the most insane decisions in recent US history and I'm sure the liberals are no worse the challenge. |
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