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May 19, 2009, 06:56 AM
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| | | The Obadufus Hello Righty's:
I dunno what you're so unhappy about. You've won. Obama is turning into Bush.
With only a couple of minor exceptions, Obama has embraced ALL of the Bush/Cheney terrorism policies. The few changes that have any substance to them (banning the already-empty CIA black sites and prohibiting no-longer-authorized torture techniques) are far less substantial than you think.
He has revived the Military Tribunals.. He will NOT close Gitmo. He has ramped up the "targeted killings" in Pakistan and Afghanistan which, has caused more collateral damage to innocent civilians. He has maintained Bush's rendition policy. He has kept Bush's domestic surveillance policies in place and unchanged.
He sucks.
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May 20, 2009, 09:52 AM
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| I know Tom I can not wait for this series!!!!!! The Phillies bats are starting to come alive. Raul Ibanez is crushing the ball right now!!! |
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May 20, 2009, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello El:
So then you'll be a supporter.... That's cool, because I won't be, and we'll still have plenty to argue about...
excon | A supporter of this? Yes. Perhaps. We'll have to see what actually comes about.
But Obama has quite a bit more to do before he makes me a supporter. His foreign policy is non-existant. His fiscal policy is bankrupting us, our children and our grandchildren. His social policy is radically to the left.
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May 21, 2009, 09:53 AM
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| Spit ;yeah nice pick up ....also dumping Pat Burrell on the Rays was a good move too.
This is one of the rare weekends when us Yank fans have to also root for the Mets (Mets v Red Socks ) .......and Met's fans have to root for the Yanks . |
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May 21, 2009, 12:29 PM
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| I liked Burell he was a good player if you ever looked the sub par fielding and the fact the he was slower then molasses.
You are right this is a very rare weekend for Yanks and Mets fans. |
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May 26, 2009, 07:01 AM
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| Obama, even more of the same? Now it's rendition lite. Quote:
The United States is now relying heavily on foreign intelligence services to capture, interrogate and detain all but the highest-level terrorist suspects seized outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to current and former American government officials.
The change represents a significant loosening of the reins for the United States, which has worked closely with allies to combat violent extremism since the 9/11 attacks but is now pushing that cooperation to new limits.
In the past 10 months, for example, about a half-dozen midlevel financiers and logistics experts working with Al Qaeda have been captured and are being held by intelligence services in four Middle Eastern countries after the United States provided information that led to their arrests by local security services, a former American counterterrorism official said.
| Instead of capturing these guys and sending them elsewhere for interrogation Obama is just telling others where they are and saying "go get 'em." |
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May 26, 2009, 07:06 AM
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| Hey Tom what did you think of the series. second was a nightmare. I thought the phillies were going to blow the third game too. |
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May 26, 2009, 07:25 AM
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| It was the clash of 2 very good teams. Would love to see them play again this year.
The New Yankee stadium needs work .You cannot justify broken bat home runs. |
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May 26, 2009, 02:50 PM
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| The key to the Obamanon is out, the left trusts him because he's a liar. Quote:
The idea that President Obama's supporters trust him precisely because they believe that he frequently misrepresents his own beliefs is becoming more widespread. My friend Bob Cunningham was one of the first to explicate this phenomenon. Yesterday he sent us these thoughts: It has long been noticed that Obama's slipperiness had been accepted by the left during the Hope-and-Change campaign when He took positions, for example and notably, NAFTA and foreign trade generally, on both sides of an issue. They were willing to cut Him slack in most cases precisely because they just assumed that, of course!!...He was lying....to someone...about the issue. Since each side could reasonably assume this --- the unions that when He made free-trade noises when He assured Canada (and then lied about THAT!) that He wasn't protectionist, and the rational liberals when He pandered to the unions on NAFTA in Ohio, for example --- they could all support Him thinking He was lying....but to the other side!...."Don't worry....we can trust Him because He's lying" was, in effect, left-wing Hope.
This has been particularly noticeable with the gay marriage issue....Carrie Prejean being exactly right when noting that her position is identical to that of His Oneness. But Obama gets a pass, of course, from the homosexual activists because they just assume He is lying!!!...to the conservative blacks, for example, 70% against gay marriage in California.... Today Frank Rich in the New York Times comes as close as I've seen actually to acknowledge openly the "we trust Him because He's lying" view: ...Obama's opposition to same-sex marriage is now giving cover to every hard-core opponent of gay rights, from the Miss USA contestant Carrie Prejean to the former Washington mayor Marion Barry, each of whom can claim with nominal justification to share the president's views.
In reality, they don't. Obama has long been, as he says, a fierce advocate for gay equality. The Windy City Times has reported that he initially endorsed legalizing same-sex marriage when running for the Illinois State Senate in 1996." In reality, Obama is always, always lying....to somebody....and often it IS the left...Sistah Souljah-ing them on renditions, Guantanamo, wiretapping, etc.....but where are they to go?
"Trust me: I'm lying!" I don't know, somehow it doesn't sound like a tactic that will work over the long run.
UPDATE: A commenter on another post draws this analogy: Many years ago, a friend of mine owned a bar in Alaska. Above the bar was a sign: "We cheat the other guy and pass the savings to you." This encapsulates the Obama profile! | I knew it really was true that to the left it's not what's being done but who's doing it. Bush lies it's bad. Obama lies it's just another good day at the office. |
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May 27, 2009, 02:58 AM
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| Sistah Souljah moments are political strategery. Obama is adept at straying from the partyline without sincerity to broaden his appeal .He threw Rev Wright under the bus and embraced Rick Warren. But does anyone doubt which Reverend's beliefs is at the core of Obama's soul ? The left knows his core so they generally don't take his walks off the reservation seriously .Oh they may grumble on Huffpo or Moveon ,but in the end they will vote for him again.
They can say that Miss California has the same beliefs about gay marriage as Obama.But she gets trashed because she actually believes it. They understand the difference.
The question is :will the swing vote recognize this ;or will they still swoon to his personality and the occassional bare chicken bone thown their way. |
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