New York's 23rd Congressional District

George_1950 · Oct 27, 2009, 10:24 AM

Lots of ink and hot air expended over the role of a third party candidate and the Republican establishment. Revolutions are never easy, and are places for the bravest of the brave. The Republican establishment certainly is not brave.

"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers." Ronaldus Maximus

1975 CPAC Speech by Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)

btw: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-1119.html

tomder55 · Nov 4, 2009, 03:33 PM

The night was a Republican victory ;but the NY 23rd was a shot across the bow of the Republican establishment . I think this bodes well to a challenge in Fla. to the Republican leadership's support for Charlie Crist in next year's Senate race . The Republicans better begin to take a serious look at Marco Rubio.I think that is going to be a big primary fight.

tomder55 · Nov 7, 2009, 03:33 AM

meanwhile Owens is doing what "moderate " Blue Dog Democrats do .

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Congressman-elect Bill Owens was sworn in at noon today.
Owens indicated in a press release that he was now in favor of the bill in direct contrast to his earlier position during his campaign.
According toPolitico.com, Mr. Owens assured voters that he felt the public option had no place in the health care reform bill. Contrary to that position, Mr. Owens now indicates that he intends to vote in favor of the bill even though it now contains a public option.

http://www.gouverneurtimes.com/index...ews&Itemid=175

George_1950 · Nov 7, 2009, 09:37 PM

"Owens Breaks 4 Campaign Promises in first hour in Congress". The Gouverneur Times - Your Online News Source

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2009, 09:57 AM

The race for the 23rd was much closer than anyone suspected. There are recounts going on and absentee ballots counted and the difference in the vote total is shrinking.
Recanvassing shows NY-23 race tightens even as Rep. Bill Owens is sworn into House seat | News from The Post-Standard -

Significant in this is the fact that Owens flipped on his opposition to Pelosi-care and voted with the majority last week. In retrospect ;Hoffman should have waited to concede.

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2009, 10:07 AM

I was just about to post this myself, tom. Speaking of outside shots, any chance you'll have mercy on my team this week? My strong team suddenly fell thanks to RB's getting yanked or hurt in the first quarter and another down week for a receiver or two.

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2009, 10:24 AM

stranger things can happen I guess.

Not sure I could take losing weeks to both my AMHD competitors.

Let's see . Both our QBs are no guarantee this week. Turner and Mendenhall could easily outperform Jackson and Lynch ...Moss and Holmes v Jackson and Colston is a wash in my view. I think I have an edge in TE ,D ,K ,and Flex (even though Ricky Williams was average last week).

I'm still amazed at the lack of trade movement in the league . I've been very lucky with waiver wire pickups . After this week I have no more juggling needed because of bye weeks (why did Moats sit there unclaimed for 2 weeks ??? Amazing !)

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

stranger things can happen I guess.

Not sure I could take losing weeks to both my AMHD competitors.

You already beat me once so you have that

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Let's see . Both our QBs are no guarantee this week. Turner and Mendenhall could easily outperform Jackson and Lynch ...Moss and Holmes v Jackson and Colston is a wash in my view. I think I have an edge in TE ,D ,K ,and Flex (even though Ricky Williams was average last week).

They aren't projecting much for Mendenhall but they didn't last week against Denver's D when I foolishly benched him...he rocked on Monday. I figured Portis could at least get through a game the first time I have EVER played him.

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I'm still amazed at the lack of trade movement in the league . I've been very lucky with waiver wire pickups . After this week I have no more juggling needed because of bye weeks (why did Moats sit there unclaimed for 2 weeks ??? Amazing !)

I think I've managed 2 trades in all my leagues. I pondered Moats but Slaton has been good points-wise so I figured a clear number one in Portis was better than a "who knows what Kubiak will do."

spitvenom · Nov 12, 2009, 10:37 AM

I'll tell you guys this much McDrabb is not screwing me out of a win this week!!!!!

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2009, 10:44 AM

Spit, that just made LOL, I nearly choked on my sunflower seeds. I think you have a good shot this week. Btw, I have a couple of really good TE's and could use a good defense...

spitvenom · Nov 12, 2009, 11:06 AM

hmmmmm who are you looking at the Saints or the Eagles D?