Lots of ink and hot air expended over the role of a third party candidate and the Republican establishment. Revolutions are never easy, and are places for the bravest of the brave. The Republican establishment certainly is not brave.

"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers." Ronaldus Maximus

1975 CPAC Speech by Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)

btw: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-1119.html

excon

Hello George:

Talking about the Dems throwing people under the bus.... But, that just what you guys did to Scozzafava. Dude!

It seems that you, the Wolverine, and the limp one, think there's a huge majority of voters to the RIGHT of where the Republican party is.

I don't. I think there's oblivion...

excon

George_1950

Seems to me there are a great number of folks who really care about freedom and liberty, rather than big government security. Perhaps there is hope for the people of New York state, afterall.

excon

Hello George:

Wow! I coulda said that first sentence about the Patriot Act. In fact, I'll bet I did.

But, in terms of New York, let's not get carried away. The ONLY shot the Democrat had is if the Right and the Further Right kept it's battle up. But, since you discarded the Republican, and embraced the third party candidate, you ensured his win...

This is a district who had its last Democrat represent it TWO century's ago.

excon

George_1950

Three observations:
1) what's wrong with democracy? The Republican candidate was not approved by the voters, but by the party machine. And unlike Obama tactics, she was not removed by intra party hacks.

2) do we now know more about who is leading the Repbublican Party? Perhaps the Party should follow the will of the people.

3) this is what Pelosi calls 'astroturf'; bwe he he

speechlesstx

Just one problem ex, she was never on my bus.

speechlesstx

And by the way, it's not looking so good for Corzine in NJ in spite of Obama pulling out all the stops including a virtual takeover of Corzine's campaign.

speechlesstx

Oh and another thing, Scozzafava is backing the Democrat now...while her campaign manager is backing Hoffman. Scozzafava finally boarded the bus she should have taken in the first place.

tomder55

That Scozzafava told her followers that they should vote for the Democrat candidate is telling about where her loyalties lie.

Trust me ;the Republican party of NY is a weak entity that rarely delivers candidates of substance. The NY 23rd has for so long been serfs dependent on the largess of the state ;that people like Scozzafava don't know any better way. The conservative revolution in the party is exactly what the NY Repubulican party needs. Only then will the people of NY be offered a real choice.

excon

Hello tom:

This isn't really about NY. It just a precursor of how the Republicans are gonna act nationwide. They're moving to the right hoping to find a LOT of people there just waiting for them to catch up....

I actually, think you're going to find oblivion out there. I asked Elliot which party these right wing masses are members of NOW. He didn't seem to know.

excon

tomder55

Yes it is because the NY 23rd is an example of the overall problem with the Republican party.

Why was John McCain the standard bearer in 2008 ? Because he was the next in line. There were better candidates than him but he had seniority and was one of the pale shades of pastels .

Why was Scozzafava selected by the party bosses in a smoke filled room ? Because it was her reward for being a party hack. It did not matter that she was more radically liberal than her Democrat opponent . She was next in line according to the Republican version of Tamney Hall. The party bosses are entrenched and needs to be uprooted .