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Apr 7, 2008, 11:15 AM
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| | | Mookie al-Sadr likely to disban Mehdi militia Well for a week now I have been reading how the assault on the JAM in Basra was a failure . But as so often happens in war ;the first 3 reports were inaccurate . Turns out that his army got it's butts kicked and he as the losing party called for cease-fire. While his thugs slithered into the civilian population the Iraqi Army continued it's block by block clean up operation.
While this was happening the Iraqi Parliment in bipartisan action that encompassed leaders of all major factions Shia Sunni and Kurd were drafting a Bill and proclaiming they would support banning parties that maintain militias from running for office.
al-Sadr has said that he would disbanned if the clerics instructed him to do so . Iraq's Sadr to disband Mehdi Army if clerics order - Yahoo! News
Major clerics like al-Sistani have been clear about their position . Al Jazeera English - News - Sistani 'Wants Militias Disarmed'
Going into tomorrows hearings on Capitol Hill I wonder how the Congressional Democrats will spin this news ? | | | | | | |
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Apr 7, 2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 Well for a week now I have been reading how the assault on the JAM in Basra was a failure . But as so often happens in war ;the first 3 reports were inaccurate . Turns out that his army got it's butts kicked and he as the losing party called for cease-fire. While his thugs slithered into the civilian population the Iraqi Army continued it's block by block clean up operation. | Al-Sadr is playing his cards well. He retains his force and makes Maliki look bad. He comes across as the hero for his people. All the killings that happen are always the other guys fault. It was a major embarrassment the other day when the police/army forces turned their weapons over to the Mahdi folks instead of fighting them. -- Ace |
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Apr 7, 2008, 01:08 PM
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| If they don't manage to dodge it altogether (seeing as how Mimi is already expecting Petraeus to lie), I'm sure they'll have the spin in place. In fact they just sent Bush a letter demanding change on Iraq prior to the hearings, adopting the three monkeys pose you warned about. Quote:
“We are deeply concerned that you and the congressional Republican leadership are intent on staying the current course throughout your Administration and then handing the Iraq war off to future presidents,” reads the letter signed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other top Democrats.
“Indeed, some in your party have indicated we should be prepared to stay in Iraq for fifty or even one hundred years. That would only compound the damage done to our national security by years of flawed Iraq policies.”
As an alternative, the letter-writers outline a four-point strategy that would involve seeking political reconcilation among Iraqis, restoring the Army and Marine Corps to the highest state of readiness, redirecting resources to Afghanistan and Pakistan and promoting stability in the broader region through diplomacy.
“We believe there is still time for you to recognize that a change in strategy is necessary to repair the grave damage done to our nation’s security,” they write. “We are committed to bringing about the necessary changes of course … and hope you will work with us. Implementing elements of this plan will be the focus of our legislative efforts.”
| Why is it they never wonder how much damage is done by insulting our troops; calling them liars (Evita, Schumer), incompetent (Schumer and every other Dem that said the war is lost or can't be won), stupid (Kerry, "stuck in Iraq"), poor, dumb screw ups with no other options ( Rangel), murderers, ( Murtha, supported by Obama), or Nazis (Durbin)? |
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Apr 7, 2008, 04:04 PM
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| Ace yes some of the Iraqi forces did not perform well but it was a huge improvement over their performace of a year ago ;or dare I say; during OIF .
al-Sadr does not look strong . The facts are that the border is sealed from his weapon supply and he cannot reinforce. The only thing he salvages from this move is some possible political viability .But even that is shrinking as the Shia population is beginning to realize he is a stooge of the Iranians and all he will do is continue to bring them misery.
When the Brits surrendered the city his milita had the chance to prove they were capable of responsible leadership. They failed in that task and they failed as a military entity. All they can do is act like a very large gangster organization .
Maliki's move to consolidate all military power under the elected government is a necessary step to the national formation. it is the equivalent of the Israeli take down of the Irgun militia on the Altalena during their infancy . It is the equivalent of Wahingotn leading the troops against the Whiskey Rebellion or the Mass. State milita taking down the Shay's Rebellion. |
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Apr 7, 2008, 04:09 PM
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| Steve shining the light of truth is the only defense against their irreponsible demogogery . General Petraeus will endure their insults and will not be diverted or provoked into straying from reporting the facts. |
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Apr 8, 2008, 06:24 AM
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| Let's see, since al-Sistani has already given his blessing on disarming the militias according to the second article you posted and Mookie is in Qom, my guess is he was listening to the clerics in Iran. |
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Apr 8, 2008, 08:20 AM
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| yup and Mookie is still hiding away in Iran ;receiving additional marching orders;while his support on the home front crumbles .......and he cancelled his million man march scheduled for today to protest the occupation. (lack of interest ?) |
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:13 AM
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| Hello:
Meanwhile, our guys are getting killed..... So, you don't think this is a civil war???? Nahhh. You're still looking for WMD's.
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello:
Meanwhile, our guys are getting killed..... So, you don't think this is a civil war???? Nahhh. You're still looking for WMD's. | The Jerusalem Post reported this yesterday: Quote: |
An upcoming joint US-Israel report on the September 6 IAF strike on a Syrian facility will claim that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein transferred weapons of mass destruction to the country, Channel 2 stated Monday.
| I'm anxious to learn more. |
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