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Old Sep 25, 2008, 09:16 AM
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McCain wants to delay fridays Debate. Why?

During the week Sen John McCain state that he wants to cancel fridays debate to tackle our country economic crisis. Barak Obama response was; The next president needs to "deal with more than one thing at once." Do you think that due to McCain lack of experience and a poor econmic plan is the reason he's looking to delay friday's debate. Is this a political stunt to show the nation that McCain priority and strength is the ecomony. As the next president we need to hear each canadates outlook during the debate to know how the econmic crisis will be handle. let me hear you america lol

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 09:22 AM   #2  
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How many presidential debates will there be then? Will there still be a veep debate? I have my beer and snacks all ready.
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we have had most of 2 years for the candidates to present their positions .I doubt that anything new will happen at formal debates besides a gotcha moment and perhaps a gaffe.

If Obama had agreed to a series of 10 town hall forum style "Lincoln -Douglas "debates then perhaps they would've be instructive and informative.

Both these clowns are paid by the taxpayers to be Senators and now is a time where we need our Senators on Capitol Hill solving a potential melt down of the economy . With that at stake the debates seem trivial in comparison.
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Both these clowns are paid by the taxpayers to be Senators and now is a time where we need our Senators on Capitol Hill solving a potential melt down of the economy . With that at stake the debates seem trivial in comparison.
Piffle!! How many Senators are there to discuss this???? Three? Ten? Fourty-two??? Besides, McCain was in his limo and busy elsewhere when the bailout was pretty much hammered out. Ever the Republicans are saying they didn't need his input.

And the proposed bailout is totally wrong, btw.
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Politically a debate on Friday would be suicide for McCain. Right now the economic crisis our country has faced in modern times due mainly to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act that allowed the repeal of Glass-Steagal, or depression-era laws protecting taxpayers from predatory lending. This legislation drafted by Republicans and John McCain's own presidential campaign co-chair and his most senior economic adviser, Phil Gramm, from summer 2007 to July 18, 2008. The entry on wikipedia has recently been changed (interesting) to take out the fact that although the legislation was signed by Clinton it was in fact veto proof. It had the majority vote in both the senate and the house.

McCain would have also been put on the spot about the Keating 5. He was one of the accused senators in a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
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The Keating 5 is a loser argument that the Dems will not seriously touch. 80% of the Keating 5 were Dems and McCain was completely exonerated by the Dem investigator Robert Bennett (who you will recall also served as Clintoon's laywer during the impeachment ).

It will be tough for the Dems to make a case against the repeal of the Glass-Steagal since it was passed with so many of their votes including Speaker Madame Mimi Pelosi.

Since you are willing to go so far back into history though why not go back to the days of HUD Andrew Cuomo and the rest of the Clinton Adm. that changed the lending rules in the 1st place ? Or the corruption and outright fraud by Fannie Mae execs and Congressional oversight committee chairs who's pockets were being lined by Wall Street ? Why is it that the Dems who love show trials have not held one of those witch hunts during this crisis ? When Enron went down we knew the names of everyone and their heads were paraded around on a pike.

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McCain suspended his campaign when Tres.Sec Paulson appealed to him to come to Washington . Obama said call me if you need me and it took a call from the President to coax him to do his job. Now he will be in Washington so he can cast his "present" vote.

Why have a debate when there is a donny-brook in the halls of Congress with the world turned upside down ?
The Pelosi led Congress is siding with the President and the Wall Streeters in a deal that you call totally wrong. I agree btw .
The minority in the House is standing stalwart with "Main Street "refusing to spend $700 Billion of the people's money on the plutocrats. Obama ,Reid et -al got on TV last night to accuse the Republicans of not cooperating in the theft . How Precious !!!!! The last two weeks, Obama has enjoyed his double game of blaming the Administration for the crisis and then claiming he was going to protect Main Street from Wall Street. Within one hour at the White House,Obama and the whole Democratic Party was demanding that the GOP help push money at the bankers. If I didn't know better I would think this is a diabolical Rovian plot to trap Obama . But ;with him being elbow deep in Fannie Mae cash ,it doesn't suprise me that he is siding with preserving the status quo.
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You guys have missed several important points.

1) The debate on Friday is about FOREIGN POLICY. Finance won't enter into it. So whoever said that McCain is afraid to face Obama over financial issues doesn't know what he is talking about.

2) By suspending his campaign, flying to DC and asking for the debates to be delayed, he's looking like a man of action. Compare that to Obama's response of "If you need me, call me." Whether McCain NEEDS to be there or not is irrelevant... by putting himself there, he looks like a man of action, and Obama doesn't.

3) By putting himself in DC at the meetings, he puts himself at the center of the most pressing issue on people's minds as part of the solution. McCain has linked himself with those who are working to solve the economic problems. By pulling McCain away from DC for the debates (which could just as easily be held at a later date) Obama is seen as inhibiting McCain's attempts to be part of the solution.

4) By linking himself with the solution, McCain is able to blunt Obama's argument that McCain is "part of the problem".

This move puts McCain in a good light and if Obama fights it, it puts Obama in a bad light. Sure it probably is a stunt. But it's a stunt with no down-side and quite a bit of up-side.

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Hello El:

You're right. Bad light for those who WISH it to be a bad light. Count yourself among that group.

As a matter of fact, his weird machinations of late show HIM in a bad light. He dissed Letterman in favor of Couric, and then got caught LYING about it on LIVE TV. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

In terms of the economy, McCain HAS no solution, therefore he IS part of the problem. Specially when the big boys HAD a deal (which you apparently support), and his "stunt" derailed it.

People are scared. They don't want stunts. They want answers. McCain has none. He's an empty suit and Palin is an empty skirt. I already knew it, but it's becoming abundantly clear to anybody who is watching.

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PS> Lest you think I believe Obama has a solution, let me disabuse you of that notion.
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do realize how much heat CBS is under for Letterman's stunt combined with the revelation that Couric intentionally dissed GOVERNOR Palin ?

Word is getting out that at the White House meeting the Dems deferred to Obama to take the lead and that Obama completely lost control of the meeting .
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