Maybe this is the way to deal with illegal aliens?

Gee, what a novel idea sending boat people back. How quaint. In Russia if you are caught trying to enter their country illegally you are taken to a holding place and left there for YEARS. The only way you can "go home" is to wait until more of your countrymen or countrywomen join you and then and only then will Russia send a bunch of you and your fellow countrymen back to your original country only after you have been incarcerated for 8 years. You can only be held in Russia for 15 years though. At least they will let you go home only after having served your incarceration time.

Now Australia is just sending these people back with no consequences and just having these people try again and again to finally get through. At least in Russia when they incarcerate you you are happy to leave that country even though you are offered the possibility of becomming a Russian. Guess how many people take up Russian citizenship after serving 8 years in a Russian holding facility? Very, very few. If anything they go back to their original country and tell all their friends don't even think of trying to enter Russia illegally.

Maybe Australia needs to do something more drastic than just turning back those unwelcome and unwanted individuals. Australia has extremely limited resources such as water, food, etc. And definitely needs to curtail the influx of people into their country. The only method that seems to work is incarcertion for years. But this is a very costly way to contain such illegal entries. But I know that North Korea has a much better policy. They just shoot on sight. No send back, no hold for years. But then, who in their right mind would even think of entering North Korea period with that kind of incentive?

New asylum seeker policy on agenda for Julia Gillard's Labor Government | The Australian

Odd, but in this article your PM says she wants to put the people smugglers out of business. So, which is it?

We have tried the incarcaration game with detention camps that would have done the nazi, the CCCP and aparteid proud, that didn't work so we abandoned the Russian solution in favour of the Pacific solution where we detained them on some godforsaken tropic isle on the equator, that slowed the influx but didn't stop the problem. We even paid them to go home figuring that was cheaper than the costs of keeping them here, but even though it has been a negative sum gain for the boat people as well as ourselves they keep coming and we are wearing out our patrol boats towing decrepid fishing boats to Chrismas Island. Now we have a leader who doesn't have a bleeding heart for the displaced masses of Asia and so, being of less brutal mind than some and not taken to machine gunning their boats and letting them swim, we think that loading up those planes that arn't as full as they used to be a good idea, sort of a stimulus for the airlines.

I really think the solution is to give them an island of their own, where they can be what they want to be without interference from us. Unfortunately most of the desirable ones are taken. It's not that we have limited resources and we have a large migration program anyway, but that our cities are becoming overcrowed and housing shortage is a problem. We just don't want to turn the place into a slum because some people think this is utopia when it is actually barbequearea. We were stupid enough to allow camels into the country and look what it did, now we don't want to be overrun by cameldrivers

That's the theory, if the people the people smugglers smuggle don't get to stay, but are just delivered back to GO, having wasted their money on a long trip to nowhere by the scenic route, then the people won't pay the people smugglers anymore, and the people smugglers will be out of business and another poli has an election policy that everyone will vote for. This doesn't say what anyone is going to do with the thousands already enroute, but that isn't our problem

Hey, some of us are smarter than this, and we know that after the election things will change, but here is more in the saga
http://www.news.com.au/features/fede...-1225888456714

In a remarkable update Red Julia has recycled the Pacific solution with the twist that refugees and asylum seekers (would be boat people who have made it that far) will be processed in East Timor. One assumes they will set up temporary slums where they will be indistinguishable from the locals and the expense of accomodating them, etc will have been avoided. Obviously if they are rejected there will be no obligation to fly them back home either. I don't see how this cuts into be business of people smugglers much, it just changes their destination from Ashmore Reef to Dili.

This demonstrates just how shallow some people can be, dumping a whole lot of potential trouble makers in the lap of a disadvantaged neighbour

Oh yeah I forgot you still "occupy " East Timor.

Yes, Tom, in the same way the US occupies Afghanistan. We are just helping out some oppressed people there.

Hello:

I need to shower after reading this thread.

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So then sometimes being an "occupier " is a good thing ?