The nation is talking greatly now and has decided that Obama, who is left of Hillary Clinton on most things important to Americans, is simply unelectable. After her victorious win in Pennsylvania, Hillary has apparently more than convinced people across the nation that she would make a better president than Obama and the nation is now agreeing with her! In fact, she is now even beating McCain! If Obama truly wants to get a Democrat as president in the Oval Office by next January, he should gracefully bow out of the race now and save the party from further struggles! This trend can only continue with Hillary winning more and more support and even the superdelegates who are now seriously looking at her!

For the story: ABC News: AP POLL: Clinton Beats McCain By Wider Margin Than Obama

NeedKarma

Sure it is, when people try to pass themselves off as a "Man of the People"
Just like Wright and religion it probably shouldn't be relevant but you make it so. Don't worry, when McCain comes out of hiding we'll begin starting multiple threads outlining his shortcomings.

tomder55

I'll probably agree with most of them . As you will recall ;McCain was not my top choice for the position.

NeedKarma

I miss Ron.

tomder55

The dirty secret in the Republican party is that the Ronulans are still mobilized and trying still to wrest the nomination from McCain. Paul has not officially dropped out of the race ,and his people have done much to undermine McCain at Repuiblican conventions at the state level .

check out what happened at the Nevada convention last week.
Ron Paul supporters not lining up behind McCain - Los Angeles Times

speechlesstx

He was naive if he didn't think this would create the firestorm that it has. He was naive if he thought he could breeze through the election without answering for it.

speechlesstx

NK, I said no such thing. This is what I said, "it is the left that preaches against this "white dominated society" and I'm the one saying I wouldn't vote for someone with that world view." It really should need no explanation but nonetheless, "white dominated society" is the object of "that world view" - not the left's preaching about it. I wouldn't vote for a white racist any more than I'd vote for any other racist.

BABRAM

The base of Black theology is not racist. Old retired ex-pastor Wright continues to add his addendum's to Black theology that are his opinions, albeit extreme. That's almost naive as claiming Cinco de Mayo is a day of about Latino supremacist celebrations. The subject is mostly controversial for some people of non-color, because mainstream churches today are embarrassed to have it repeated that their white "Christian" relatives held Blacks in slavery. I know where the naive end started as it wasn't with Obama. As for listening, I never heard one, not one Republican in these forums start off by interjecting that Obama's not a racist. After months of witch hunting and innuendos, "hallelajuh" I'm finally hearing some admitting that Obama's not racist! Small miracles never cease to amaze me. I'm going to work now this has made my day!

tomder55

A long time ago (1984 )the Pope ,then Cardinal Ratzinger wrote essays on what he saw as the flaws in liberation theology .He warned against the temptation to see the Christian message exclusively in a political context, thus missing the central role of Jesus Christ in man's liberation. He said liberation theology was dangerous becaused it fused “the Bible’s view of history with Marxist dialectics."
No the base of liberation theology is not racist ;it is Marxist .But Rev Wright's interpretation is separatists so how could it not be racist ?

speechlesstx

Bobby, my original point on "black theology" is that there isn't - or shouldn't be - a separate Christian theology for blacks. Obama in Philadelphia told us "the fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour of American life occurs on Sunday morning." At least after seeing his pastor go out for 3 appearances and confirm those sound bites weren't something he could say was taken out of context, that 'surprise' should be no wonder to him any longer.

The more liberal churches are embarrassed and that shame and guilt is their problem. The rest of us take offense at trying to be shamed for a 'theology' that says all white men are responsible for oppressing blacks.

I don't know about the others, but for myself the question was about Obama's judgment and character, not whether or not he is a racist. I've stated that plainly several times.

BABRAM

It's a fact that Black theology occured because blacks were not seen as the human equals to be at white churches in the eyes of their white Christian slave owners. Ever heard of "White" theology?! That's been around a lot longer than "Black" theology. All Christianity should had been ashamed for that part of history, but that's even not something that Obama dwells on. And I'm certainly not saying that you personally are responsible for their actions, but you should respect that African-Americans endured something that makes them unique in their struggles of hardships. For example: if I ever said to my rabbi, gabbai, or whipered in the cantor's ear, that Germany shouldn't be embarrassed, or shamed, or have remorse for hitler's hell on earth (and what the holocaust represented to Jews) or how it altered and effected our history...could you imagine the looks and correction that I would receive at shul?! I'd be chastised until moshiach came or my natural death! In a perfect world there wouldn't had been black slaves, but that's not the course of history America decided upon. Personally I think our country has made great strides since then, but remember black people didn't even have equal public freedoms that most people already enjoyed until the 1960's. And that's not that long ago. Jeremiah Wright, in my book, is as religiously extreme in his personal views as many other "Christian" pastors, such as Hagee, or any other two dozen evangelicals sucking up attention and draining old ladies out of their retirement. In fact, Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson in a commercial together represent two more strange ducks as well. Fortunately none of these clowns, black or white, are running for president.


The Republican party, not you personally, scattered innuendo that Obama was the splitting image of Wright, an extremist who went way outside the lines of Black theology. The Republicans used this as a smear tactic and they know it. The Pubs actually have no choice because they're leading a weak candidate to a more-than-likely consolation prize. Hillary piled on because she needs to make up ground and she'll do anything by hook or crook. I'm going to break for shabbos soon.