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The nation is talking greatly now and has decided that Obama, who is left of Hillary Clinton on most things important to Americans, is simply unelectable. After her victorious win in Pennsylvania, Hillary has apparently more than convinced people across the nation that she would make a better president than Obama and the nation is now agreeing with her! In fact, she is now even beating McCain! If Obama truly wants to get a Democrat as president in the Oval Office by next January, he should gracefully bow out of the race now and save the party from further struggles! This trend can only continue with Hillary winning more and more support and even the superdelegates who are now seriously looking at her!
Personally i think Rev Wrights latest rant may not be as bad for Obama as people think. It allowed the public to see the man in a suit and tie. This time he didnt deliver his rave from the pulpit but at a press club as someone much akin to a politician himself. The people got to see him for the first time not as a "racist" pastor but just like an old school black politician who says things that people are uncomfortable with. But now he looks like a politician that is in stark contrast to Obama who handles himself with grace and politeness. Obama has divorced himself from Right now and i think this press club rant will just become old news very quickly.
But id still like to know if people think Obama is a racist?
Pay attention, NK. world Twice now I've said I WOULD NOT vote for someone with that world view or goal - that it would be an affront to everyone else. Don't twist my words.
Instead of me coming home after a long day at the office to play chase Republican ghost postulates, or going over and over Black history another time or two with you, or discussing the numerous theologies that Christians teach, I'll just say that a few things you've said in these threads are disturbing, and I completely disagree. Granted much of all our views are based on experiences, our cultures, and ethnic history. For example: my family often jests that our family's tree looks like the United Nations. I'll make no excuses, perhaps this does place my ideologies closer to Obama, than McCain (or Clinton for that matter). I do like the fact that Obama is liberal on some issues and I'll add my deep respect and gratitude for him being a civil rights lawyer. Your arguments mostly boil down to this, is Obama a racist? The answer is, absolutely not! I'm waiting for McCain to charge him otherwise in the national debates. McCainites will regret that decision.
Bobby, if it were someone else I might find this disturbing, but I think you've been hearing me but not listening to what I'm saying. I find it disturbing that the same people that are supposedly trying to put an end to racism are justifying it in the case of "black theology." I'm the one saying there is room for and even joy in celebrating cultural differences in the church - but no room for racism and hatred - and it's going right over your heads. I find it disturbing that I would twice say that I wouldn't vote for a candidate with racist views on either side of the aisle and you guys are scratching your heads like I'm the racist fool. Isn't that exactly what you normally would expect from me, to reject the racist candidate, expect a church free of racism and other destructive theology? I think so, but you and NK are managing to find something completely different in my words.
And for the record (for you, too Skell), I don't think Obama is racist. But I do think he's either been dishonest or naive - and probably both - when it comes to this area of his life.
Dishonest i dont know. Naive ill grant you that. But does naivity in an area in his life that wont effect his ability as a politcian really need to be gone over and over and over and over. He's not racist, he doesnt hold racist beliefs. his ex pastor may be a racist. So what. Get over it i think is the term ive heard bandied around here lately. Ill never argue with your right to oppose his views on political issues but this is beginning to get boring dont you think? American politics is indeed a theatrical stage.
But just so we are clear? If he isnt a racist but simply naive what then is the problem? Why is it generating such an interest. Is it in the hope that he will somehow spit out some racist remark or morph into a racist?
Do I think he's a racist ? Not really . Nor do I think he is naiive .I think he was born and raised in a yuppy existance and went to the Trinity Unity Church for street cred . It served a political purpose.......just like Rev Wright said . But it does put this mythology surrounding Obama to bed once and for all.
Pay attention, NK. world Twice now I've said I WOULD NOT vote for someone with that world view or goal - that it would be an affront to everyone else. Don't twist my words.
I AM paying attention. Here's your quote:
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That's odd Bobby, seeing as it is the left that preaches against this "white dominated society" and I'm the one saying I wouldn't vote for someone with that world view.
So the "left" preaches against a "white dominated society" and you don't like that. What are we left with then?
They pretend to be just like you and me, but there is only one candidate in this race that can come close to making that assertion without causing widespread nausea. Barack Obama.
It is not relevent what their income is now . I clearly said born and raised a yuppie (not rich) . He did not come from a ghetto existance . He went to private schools from his elementary days and went to the best universities in the country .
It was only when he decided to be a "community activist " that he went to this church . It was all political calculation ;Just like this blow out between him and Rev Wright is . It is a fact that Obama discussed the possibility of cutting the Rev out with him before he even announced his candidacy because of his controversial comment from the pulpit.
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