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    #601

    Jul 10, 2013, 05:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post

    I also believe the Supreme court should invalidate ANY law that the Senate, White House, or Congress has exempted themselves from under the equal protection Clause. Or at least invalidate any exclusion written into them.
    Written into what?
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    #602

    Jul 10, 2013, 05:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Written into what?
    Back up a few words before that and it's there...

    In the US there is a legal concept of severability in laws... it determines if portions of laws can be held invalid without tossing out the entire law. If it is or isn't depends on the exact wording of the law.
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    #603

    Jul 10, 2013, 06:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Back up a few words before that and its there....

    In the US there is a legal concept of severability in laws....it determines if portions of laws can be held invalid without tossing out the entire law. If it is or isn't depends on the exact wording of the law.
    Apparently Obamacare doesn't have a serverability clause.
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    Jul 10, 2013, 06:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Apparently Obamacare doesn't have a serverability clause.
    That's what I remember them ruling on... since it can't be implied.. but has to be specifically written into the law that it is.

    A well written law does... otherwise any one part that's ruled unconstitutional means the entire thing is.
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    Jul 10, 2013, 06:59 PM
    Its been ruled on and its law... Debate over.
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    Jul 10, 2013, 07:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Its been ruled on and its law............Debate over.
    No its not... ANY law can be repealed... and its NOT over yet.
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    #607

    Jul 10, 2013, 07:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Apparently Obamacare doesn't have a serverability clause.
    Yes , if SCOTUS found the personal mandate unconstitutional then conceivably the whole law could've been struck. However ,instead Chief Justice Roberts found a new definition for the word "tax " .
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    Jul 10, 2013, 07:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No its not...ANY law can be repealed....and its NOT over yet.
    You have tried 40 times, failed, and just getting started?

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What do they call that?
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    Jul 10, 2013, 07:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You have tried 40 times, failed, and just getting started?

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What do they call that?
    The left keeps doing that... and has for decades... we can do it too... besides... another 3.5 years and the terrorist in chief WILL be forever OUT of the white house... and even before then when we take back the Senate.. we can bury a rider into every law and bill that repeals it... like so many other things get hidden.. and when he signs is.. it will stop being law.

    The left doesn't give up trying to ram interspecies marriage down everyone's throats... or trying to repeal the second amendment... we aren't going to stop until this is repealed... no matter how long it takes.
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    Jul 11, 2013, 04:30 AM
    ram interspecies marriage down everyone's throats
    What's that? Who is doing that?
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    Jul 11, 2013, 04:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What's that? Who is doing that?
    If you can't define a marriage as between a man and a woman... then legally anything goes.
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    Jul 11, 2013, 05:00 AM
    True but I think (or hope ) that humans draw the line with bestiality . However ,it does open the door to polygamy... and possibly age of consent laws.
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    #613

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy
    If you can't define a marriage as between a man and a woman... then legally anything goes.
    That's not what I asked. You said:
    ram interspecies marriage down everyone's throats
    I want to know who is doing that. Link me to your proof.
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    Jul 11, 2013, 05:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    true but I think (or hope ) that humans draw the line with beastiality . However ,it does open the door to polygamy .....and possibly age of consent laws.
    How so?
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    Jul 11, 2013, 05:17 AM
    However ,it does open the door to polygamy... and possibly age of consent laws.
    is this something you foresee for yourself? Multiple wives or marrying a 12 year old girl?
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    Jul 11, 2013, 05:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That's not what I asked. You said:
    I want to know who is doing that. Link me to your proof.
    Ramming ANYTHING but HETEROSEXUAL marriage down out throats is all the same... and you don't even have to leave this forum to find ample evidence of that.
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    Jul 11, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy
    Ramming ANYTHING but HETEROSEXUAL marriage down out throats is all the same
    So that's your logic: unless the government is ramming ramming uniquely heterosexual marriage to all citizens it is ramming inter-species marriage (such as a spider and a dolphin) down your throat. Did I get that right?
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    #618

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So that's your logic: unless the government is ramming ramming uniquely heterosexual marriage to all citizens it is ramming inter-species marriage (such as a spider and a dolphin) down your throat. Did I get that right?
    Not my logic... its Liberal tactics... decades of liberal tactics. At least here in the USA.
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    Jul 11, 2013, 06:13 AM
    It's come to this...

    'Raise your voice, not your hands,' cops urge as Zimmerman verdict looms

    That's right, Broward county is running a PSA telling people not to riot if George Zimmerman is acquitted, which if the prosecution's handling of the case indicates is likely to happen. So what are they saying by running such a PSA?
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    #620

    Jul 11, 2013, 06:19 AM
    So what are they saying by running such a PSA?
    Not to riot.
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