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Old Jun 8, 2009, 11:32 AM
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If only

If only I was a

Latina woman,
unmarried and with no children to support,
living in luxury in Greenwich Village, one of the highest-rent districts in New York,
who went to some of the best Ivy League schools in the nation,
with a history of having my judicial decisions overturned by higher courts,
who saved Major League Baseball... or at least the 1995 season,
who has claimed to be a superior intelect than white men because she is a Latina woman,
and who can't seem to walk straight without assistance (the news just said that Sotomayor just broke her ankle at an airport while walking to a meeting with a Senator... remember the hassles the media gave Ford, one of the best athletes to ever sit in the White House, for tripping on an airplane stairwell?),
and a great degree of empathy for minorities and disadvantaged people (whether they deserve that empathy or not and regardless of what the law actually says),

then I too would be qualified to be on the Supreme Court of the United States. Or so Sonia Sotomayor would seem to believe.

But I'm just a guy with a long history of REAL jobs, a wife, two kids, a mortgage to pay and mouths to feed. I certainly don't have the ability to make decisions with the same level of ability and empathy as Judge Sonia Sotomayor.

If only...

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Old Jun 8, 2009, 11:43 AM   #2  
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It's "If I were," not "If I was" (conditional, subjunctive mood).

Now, please rewrite your post so it's truthful.
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It's "If I were," not "If I was" (conditional, subjunctive mood).

Now, please rewrite your post so it's truthful.
But it WERE truthful.



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Don't make me get up and walk over there, ET! Let's start with this line, "who has claimed to be a superior intelect than white men because she is a Latina woman." "Intelect" is spelled incorrectly, plus "Latina woman" is redundant. "Latina" IS a female. Now I'll give you a chance to rework the rest of it. Please post her actual quote too as your evidence.
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Don't forget she upheld the NFL's Rule that you have to be 3 years removed from High school to play in the NFL. Maurice Clarett challenged that rule when he was kicked out of Ohio St.
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What a trooper! "Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor broke her ankle Monday morning in an airport stumble, then boarded her flight to Washington as scheduled and made the roughly hourlong trip to Washington to meet with senators who will vote on her confirmation. She even stopped at the White House Monday after her arrival in Washington, before heading to a local medical office for an x-ray. She will keep her six appointments with senators despite the injury." (AP)
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Don't make me get up and walk over there, ET! Let's start with this line, "who has claimed to be a superior intelect than white men because she is a Latina woman." "Intelect" is spelled incorrectly, plus "Latina woman" is redundant. "Latina" IS a female. Now I'll give you a chance to rework the rest of it. Please post her actual quote too as your evidence.

Alright... let's use her direct quote AND clear up the redundancy issue in one fell swoop:

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"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Judge Sonia M. Sotomayor, at the Annual Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California, Berkeley, 2001.
So, what was that about redundancy, Wondergirl? You'd think that that a "wise Latina woman" of such "rich[ness] of experience" would know that "Latina Woman" is a redundancy. She clearly didn't think so, at least not at the time she said them. And she clearly reaches better conclusions than I do as a White male who hasn't lived her life.

Any other issues with my OP? I'll be happy to clear them up.

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Only superior smarts will make this possible:

"Sotomayor graduated with an A.B., summa c.u.m laude, from Princeton University in 1976, and received her J.D. from Yale Law School in 1979, where she was an editor at the Yale Law Journal." (Wikipedia)

Note, SUMMA c.u.m laude. "Summa" in Latin is the best, superlative. And ya don't get to be a Yale Law Journal editor because yer cute or even because yer a Latina.
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So, what was that about redundancy, Wondergirl? You'd think that that a "wise Latina woman" of such "rich[ness] of experience" would know that "Latina Woman" is a redundancy. She clearly didn't think so, at least not at the time she said them. And she clearly reaches better conclusions than I do as a White male who hasn't lived her life.
I, white woman, slave to a patriarchial society, would reach better conclusions than any white male who has enjoyed and profited from that same patriarchial society.

She was using "Latina woman" so all you gringoes out there know what she's talking about.
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I, white woman, slave to a patriarchial society, would reach better conclusions than any white male who has enjoyed and profited from that same patriarchial society.
So much for a post racialist sociaty as promised by Obama.

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She was using "Latina woman" so all you gringoes out there know what she's talking about.
And I was using it to show how SHE speaks... including how she talks down to "gringoes". SHE said it, and I was quoting her.

That's a poor argument, Wondy, and you know it. You called ME on the redundancy, but never realized that I was quoting her when I wrote it. Just admit it and move on.

So, let me get this straight. Judge Sotomayor believes that being a Latina somehow gives her a better perspective on the situations of the 87% of the country that aren't Hispanic? Including a better perspective than Whites who are included among the 75% majority of the population?

How does that work?

I'm not saying that Sotomayor isn't qualified to sit on the bench or be a member of SCOTUS. But I fail to see how being a Latina makes her MORE qualified to be a judge than a White man, who in fact would be part of that majority of the population, and would therefore have a better understanding of what that majority feels than she would.

If, of course, having such an understanding is what being a SCOTUS Justice is all about in the first place. Which it shouldn't be. It SHOULD be about interpreting the law as it is, not as we wish it was.

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