Has anyone seen the org chart for Obama's health plan?

Quoting speechlesstx:
Hello again, steve:

And, what was your fix again?

excon

Quoting excon:
Yes... that would be true... IF YOU HAD NO OTHER WAY OF OBTAINING THAT TREATMENT.

Luckily, that is not the system we currently live in.

Quoting :
Actually, it is NOT the way it is today. Today, there are plenty of other methods of obtaining treatments even if your insurance company doesn't pay for them. I've listed them before, but since Excon's memory is faulty, I'll list some of them again.

There's the good old emergency room. In this country, if you need a treatment, you cannot be turned away, even if you cannot afford that treatment.

There's free clinics.

There's out of pocket payments. Lots of medical practitioners allow for payment plans these days. I've been seeing it more and more often, especially from practitioners who don't accept insurance in the first place.

There's free and reduced cost meds given out to those in need by pharmaceutical companies. Just about every pharma company has a community service program for those in financial difficulty that need their meds.

There are charitable organizations that will defray some medical costs for those in need. Some are funded with government money, some are privately funded. But they are out there.

There are even research programs that will cover medical treatments for volunteers in the studies of new treatments. You hear about them all the time on TV and the radio... "join our study and we'll cover your medical treatments during the course of the study".

Clearly there are quite a few ways of getting treatment EVEN IF YOUR INSURANCE WON'T COVER THE TREATMENT.

Excon's blithe statement that if an insurance company denies coverage you have no options is simply NOT TRUE. It is DEMONSTRABLY FALSE.

However, if you are living in a single payer system, then there truly are no options. If the government is the only source for drugs and medical treatments and if they say no, the answer is no and there are no other options because nobody besides the government is ALLOWED to pay for it.

I know that excon would like us all to believe that our system is "unfair, unjust, and broken". (The cry of every lib... "It's not fair". Boo friggin' hoo.) But it isn't unfair, unjust or broken. There are some things that need improvement, sure. I've posted some options for fixing them that are WAY cheaper than creating nationalized health care. I've even challenged those on this board to dispute those ideas, and so far, nobody has.

There are better ways to fix what's broke about our system than to just toss the whole system. And what excon would like you to believe is broke really isn't.

Elliot

Quoting speechlesstx:
Irrelevant.

Quoting NeedKarma:
Of course. For you, the facts are ALWAYS irrelevant.

Quoting NeedKarma:
LOL, I'm glad I don't live in your alternative reality.

Quoting excon:
You didn't have to insult me before the compliment.

Quoting speechlesstx:
Like all the times you have deemed something irrelevant:
Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Has anyone seen the org chart for Obama's health plan?
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current...ml#post1877742
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current...ml#post1843291
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current...ml#post1841761
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current...ml#post1786757

I just doing satire.

Quoting excon:
Good question. I don't pretend to have the answers unlike the politicians that think it's pointless to even read the bill because it would take two lawyers to understand it anyway. I can tell you I believe the place to start is tort reform...it's just a shame that John Edwards isn't in the Senate for that discussion.

Quoting NeedKarma:
No, you just stirring up crap.