Governor Patterson Drinks Diet Soda

tomder55 · Dec 15, 2008, 10:20 AM

http://www.timesunion.com/ASPStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=750267

The plan will come with a host of revenue raisers — increased taxes on hospitals and insurance policies, for instance — and at least one new assessment, a so-called obesity tax on non-diet soda to raise $404 million. The governor also is contemplating requiring new license plates to raise cash, reviving sales tax on clothing purchases, removing the tax cap on gasoline and threatening to require Indian retailers to collect taxes on sales to non-Indians by signing into law a bill passed earlier this year by the Legislature.

But .................. Diet soda, besides being bad for you ,makes it more likely that you will gain weight.

In 2005, Sharon Fowler and her colleagues from the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio presented eight years of research data that explored the link between obesity risk and soft drinks.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight

For regular soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

26% for up to 1/2 can each day
30.4% for 1/2 to one can each day
32.8% for 1 to 2 cans each day
47.2% for more than 2 cans each day.

For diet soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

36.5% for up to 1/2 can each day
37.5% for 1/2 to one can each day
54.5% for 1 to 2 cans each day
57.1% for more than 2 cans each day.

For each can of diet soft drink consumed each day, a person's risk of obesity went up 41%.

Me..... I think I'll stick with beer .

N0help4u · Dec 17, 2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

NeedKarma, more research has been done recently on that, and it turns out that there are other factors involved. The formaldihyde/methanol produced in fruit juices, has the methyl-ester bond, but the formaldehyde in aspertame does not, and therefore while the methanol from fruit juices is not absorbed, the methanol from aspertame is absorbed. This is based on a study that from June 2008 that I read... can't remember the source, though.

At the same time, at no point have I said that diet Coke is a poison. I only said that the aspertame turns into formaldehyde when metabolized. Even the article you cite from snopes.com agrees with that fact. I would think that ingesting formaldehyde in any amount would be contra-indicated, whether it reaches toxic levels or not. Kind of like how a little Mustard gas might not be toxic, but I sure wouldn't want to ingest even a little bit of it.

Elliot

Yeah a lot of it has to do with organic vs synthetic
Preservatives/man-made synthetics react different than organic

Here is a good example

YouTube - TWINKIE vs. TORCH

NeedKarma · Dec 17, 2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

I only said that the aspertame turns into formaldehyde when metabolized. Even the article you cite from snopes.com agrees with that fact.

I was simply pointing out that fruit juices and alcohol produce more methanol (then methanol can be converted to formaldehyde) than aspartame. But I don't you guys all up in arms about fruit juice or alcohol.

tomder55 · Feb 13, 2009, 07:50 AM

quick update :

In meeting with college students over his budget, Paterson told the young New Yorkers not worry about his soda tax because the Legislature won't go for it. But he said it has served its purpose of raising awareness of childhood obesity.
Paterson Admits Obesity Tax Plan Has Failed - wcbstv.com

NeedKarma · Feb 13, 2009, 07:53 AM

If he was worried about childhood obesity you'd think he would focus more on HFCS.



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