Governor Patterson Drinks Diet Soda

tomder55 · Dec 15, 2008, 10:20 AM

http://www.timesunion.com/ASPStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=750267

The plan will come with a host of revenue raisers — increased taxes on hospitals and insurance policies, for instance — and at least one new assessment, a so-called obesity tax on non-diet soda to raise $404 million. The governor also is contemplating requiring new license plates to raise cash, reviving sales tax on clothing purchases, removing the tax cap on gasoline and threatening to require Indian retailers to collect taxes on sales to non-Indians by signing into law a bill passed earlier this year by the Legislature.

But .................. Diet soda, besides being bad for you ,makes it more likely that you will gain weight.

In 2005, Sharon Fowler and her colleagues from the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio presented eight years of research data that explored the link between obesity risk and soft drinks.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight

For regular soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

26% for up to 1/2 can each day
30.4% for 1/2 to one can each day
32.8% for 1 to 2 cans each day
47.2% for more than 2 cans each day.

For diet soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

36.5% for up to 1/2 can each day
37.5% for 1/2 to one can each day
54.5% for 1 to 2 cans each day
57.1% for more than 2 cans each day.

For each can of diet soft drink consumed each day, a person's risk of obesity went up 41%.

Me..... I think I'll stick with beer .

NeedKarma · Dec 15, 2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

You forgot to mention that diet soda literally rots your brain. A friend of mine a few years ago drank upwards of 8 diet Cokes during her work day. She would line up the empty cans of Diet Coke like they were empty beer cans. Hilarious. What was not so funny was the fact that for a woman in her 50's she was worse than absent minded. She was downright stupid and could barely do her job without asking everybody else at the company what they thought she could do. (true story).

I think the Gov has had wayyyy toooo many Diet sodas as his brain has rotted away completely.

There is a causation problem with that theory. You'd have to prove that she would not have gone "stupid" on her own without the soda/pop.

N0help4u · Dec 15, 2008, 02:23 PM

yeah I agree that it could be caused by a number of other things but I feel that even my regular Pepsi is contributing a bit to my old timers memory lapses.

NeedKarma · Dec 15, 2008, 02:52 PM

I'm cutting down myself. But hockey 3 times a week is helping. Also we don't have High Fructose Corn Syrup here in soft drinks Canada so that's good as well.

Galveston1 · Dec 15, 2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

You forgot to mention that diet soda literally rots your brain. A friend of mine a few years ago drank upwards of 8 diet Cokes during her work day. She would line up the empty cans of Diet Coke like they were empty beer cans. Hilarious. What was not so funny was the fact that for a woman in her 50's she was worse than absent minded. She was downright stupid and could barely do her job without asking everybody else at the company what they thought she could do. (true story).

I think the Gov has had wayyyy toooo many Diet sodas as his brain has rotted away completely.

Could this somehow be the real cause of the Obama victory?

Galveston1 · Dec 15, 2008, 05:03 PM

I was talking about this sort of thing to the wife just the other day.

When we get national health care, will we have to get a prescription in order to buy red meat and Blue Bell ice cream?

ETWolverine · Dec 16, 2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

do they have kosher pork now, elliot?

lol

ETWolverine · Dec 16, 2008, 10:59 AM

Hi guys,

Keep in mind that aspartame turns into formaldihyde in your body. Not exactly something that recommends diet soda for regular consumption.

Elliot

NeedKarma · Dec 16, 2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Keep in mind that aspartame turns into formaldihyde in your body. Not exactly something that recommends diet soda for regular consumption.
Elliot

snopes.com: Aspartame -- Sweet Poison?

Quote:

Aspartame, a dipeptide composed of phenylalanine and aspartic acid linked by a methyl ester bond, is not absorbed, and is completely hydrolysed in the intestine to yield the two constituent amino acids and free methanol. Opponents of aspartame suggest that the phenylalanine and methanol so released are dangerous. In particular, they assert that methanol can be converted to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, and thus cause metabolic acidosis and neurotoxicity.
Although a 330 ml can of aspartame-sweetened soft drink will yield about 20 mg methanol, an equivalent volume of fruit juice produces 40 mg methanol, and an alcoholic beverage about 60-100 mg. The yield of phenylalanine is about 100 mg for a can of diet soft drink, compared with 300 mg for an egg, 500 mg for a glass of milk, and 900 mg for a large hamburger (1). Thus, the amount of phenylalanine or methanol ingested from consumption of aspartame is trivial, compared with other dietary sources.

tomder55 · Dec 17, 2008, 05:32 AM

more details on the Guvs nickle and dime tax increase plans

He will increase taxes on:
Movie tickets, taxi rides, regular soda, beer, wine, cigars and massages cable and satellite TV services ....and removes the tax exemption for clothes costing less than $110. (cross the Hudson river and buy clothes in NJ)

Probable tolls on the few remaining bridges into Manhattan that aren't tolled .

But no taxes on Diet soda and please... no tax on stamps .

We will also now have Video slot machines at Belmont Race Park, more multistate lottery games and expanded hours for the state's Quick Draw lottery game.

In return for these increases in taxes he promises to :

Cut school aid 3.3% or $698 million

reductions in payments to hospitals,nursing homes and other health care providers amounting to $3.5 billion .

Oh yeah ...we also get to purchase a new improved design of the NY State auto License(even though my license plate is only a couple of years old and in excellent condition)

Why is NY facing such a huge shortfall ? Well ;they came to rely on the tax revenuse from those evil Wall Streeters to fund their ever expanding nanny-state .Patterson said yesterday :
"Maybe we should have though about this when we were depending on what we thought were inexhuastive taxes collected from Wall st., and now those taxes have fallen off a cliff".

Duhhhhh ya think?

ETWolverine · Dec 17, 2008, 01:13 PM

NeedKarma, more research has been done recently on that, and it turns out that there are other factors involved. The formaldihyde/methanol produced in fruit juices, has the methyl-ester bond, but the formaldehyde in aspertame does not, and therefore while the methanol from fruit juices is not absorbed, the methanol from aspertame is absorbed. This is based on a study that from June 2008 that I read... can't remember the source, though.

At the same time, at no point have I said that diet Coke is a poison. I only said that the aspertame turns into formaldehyde when metabolized. Even the article you cite from snopes.com agrees with that fact. I would think that ingesting formaldehyde in any amount would be contra-indicated, whether it reaches toxic levels or not. Kind of like how a little Mustard gas might not be toxic, but I sure wouldn't want to ingest even a little bit of it.

Elliot



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