God bless Joe Biden

speechlesstx · Oct 20, 2008, 02:00 PM

You gotta love the guy for speaking his mind...

Quote:

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said at a Seattle fundraiser Sunday, "it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said, including the Middle East and Russia as possibilities, "and he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Biden also mentioned the current economic crisis. "Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The garrulous Biden said that he's "forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it. This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

If he's so brilliant and so prepared, why is Biden already begging for help? Why is he already predicting low poll numbers? This is the guy that "has it" and this is his running mate?

Reportedly Biden added, “I probably shouldn’t have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here.”

tomder55 · Oct 22, 2008, 07:27 AM

The VP is President of the Senate ...check out your pocket Constitution. The fact that the modern VP has not exercised that role does not mean it doesn't exist. The Founders certainly intended the VP to play an active role . How do I know this ? Because all of them that were VPs did indeed preside over the Senate proceedings. Adams Jefferson and Burr all did so.

So why did it change ? My best guess is that the 12th Amendment changed to VP from an opponent of the President to a political ally. There was less of a case to be made of a true separation of powers . VP's became more inclined to work within the Executive branch and their role in the Senate evolved to primarily ceremonial .

But that doesn't mean a VP could not exercise that role .There would not be a damn thing that Harry Reid could do about Palin grabbing the gavel short of conviction on Impeachment .

VP's in some cases have since acted as liasons with the legislative branch. LBJ was good at it. In fact ;Obama and Biden have openly spoken of him having a simular role.
So what Palin envisions is exactly what Obama has in mind for Biden.

Now perhaps Palin could've stated it better ;but she was addressing a 3rd grader's question .

speechlesstx · Oct 22, 2008, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.... I never know what you guy's are really saying, because you don't really SAY it. You INFER it.

Let's not infer, even though I think it's been perfectly clear what I've said in the past. The mainstream media has a double standard, this guy admitted it. How does that serve the public interest? It doesn't, and don't give me that they're balanced out by Limbaugh and Fox News line. Do the majority of Americans get their news from Fox, Limbaugh, Medved, the National Review? Not even close.

excon · Oct 22, 2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Do the majority of Americans get their news from Fox, Limbaugh, Medved, the National Review? Not even close.

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, I think it IS close.... My evidence is the upcoming election. It's gonna be close.

If the righty's aren't getting their news from talk radio, and all they get is the "liberal" media, Obama should CRUSH McCain.... But, it ain't gonna happen.

So, how are all those righty's keeping up if NOT for Limprod and his ilk?

excon

speechlesstx · Oct 22, 2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, I think it IS close.... My evidence is the upcoming election. It's gonna be close.

If the righty's aren't getting their news from talk radio, and all they get is the "liberal" media, Obama should CRUSH McCain.... But, it ain't gonna happen.

So, how are all those righty's keeping up if NOT for Limprod and his ilk?

LOL, when I'm not being indoctrinated by Rush, Medved, Hannity and O'Reilly I get my news here of course.

AWess · Oct 25, 2008, 08:14 PM

Joe Biden VP '08

Anyone with me??