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Nov 11, 2008, 06:42 AM
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| | | Gay Marriage Hello conservative right wingers:
Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!
You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:06 AM
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If it is about morals and religion why am I allowed to get married? My wife and I are both flaming atheists.
In fact we purposely scrubbed the word god out of all of our marriage vows.
| Was your "marriage " then sanctioned in a church ;or was it a civil ceremony ? | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:11 AM
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| Civil ceremony of course. Although I believe the woman that married us was a minister of some church or other. We were required to have someone that was legally able to sign the license and most of the time that means a minister of some sort they seem to be the only ones that go through the paper work to do that here in VA. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by passmeby Great answer, classy!! So true.
Anyway, I have to say how I can't believe how nasty the OP has been through this topic. He asked for opinions, called on Christians to answer, and then slams everyone with a differing opinion.
I don 't think gays should be allowed to marry. Not even just from a Christian perspective, I just think it's unnatural. I also think the practice of gay marriage, if legal, would be greatly abused for financial gains. Being gay is a defect, obviously. All living things have one purpose-to reproduce. Just because the times we live in now, where a person can be a productive member of society without having kids, doesn't make being gay not a defect. Obviously, if you're attracted to the same sex, you can't reproduce, and therefore, in the natural world, you are useless.
And that is my opinion, and I think YOU are wrong, excon. What, did you fall in love with your cellie or something? Is this why you are asking? | Are you saying that I am defective because I am infertile? Seriously?
I'm not a lesbian, but I AM infertile----and that attitude is EXACTLY why infertile couples don't usually advertise WHY they don't have kids.
And by that token---are those couples that CHOOSE not to have children useless because they don't reproduce? Are they EVIL because they choose not to add to the growing population problem in the world?
Honestly, i think there are more Christian ideas that are "defective" than non-christian ideas. And again---anyone arguing that God says that marriage is a man and woman becoming one--and thank you for the quote--should NEVER get divorced, nor believe in divorce, because you're cleaving apart what GOD made to be put together.
If you're protesting gay marriages, you should ALSO be protesting divorced people being able to remarry in the church, because by the church's definition, they CAN'T divorce---GOD made them one, and only GOD can part them. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by passmeby Anyway, I have to say how I can't believe how nasty the OP has been through this topic. He asked for opinions, called on Christians to answer, and then slams everyone with a differing opinion.....
And that is my opinion, and I think YOU are wrong, excon. What, did you fall in love with your cellie or something? Is this why you are asking? | Hello pass:
I'm NOT the nasty one here. I have over 9,000 posts. I've been here for LOTS of years. These people are my friends. I don't attack people. I don't insult them.
What I have is opinions. I speak them loudly and vociferously WITHOUT insulting anyone. Too bad you can't live up to the standards of an exconvict. You're the nasty one, in fact.
I will answer your question, however, your insult notwithstanding.
I understand, that you cannot understand a citizen who wants to share the freedoms and bounties that our country promises, simply because the country promises it, and nothing more. You think there has to be something in for me, I suppose, because you're not able to see beyond your own selfish wants.
I understand your kind. I really do.
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:16 AM
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| The state then has no business bringing up issues of ' God 'in the ceremony then. My position is that the word marriage should only apply to the religious sacrament . Civil union then applied equally would satisfy all concerned unless the agenda was different then equal rights under the law. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasParent I will assume that your authority on what constitutes marriage is from the Bible. Yet, there are some Christian Churches who interpret the Bible differently and allow the marriage of two people of the same sex.
Tell me, who amongst Christianity settles what is truth and what isn't? The majority? Now that would be a slippery slope. | Churches and people can interpret the bible any way they want but it doesn't make it the right interpretation. And on this subject there is no doubt what the correct interpretation is, there is nothing, nada, zilch, zero in the bible that can truthfully be interpreted to sanction gay marriage. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Synnen Are you saying that I am defective because I am infertile? Seriously?
I'm not a lesbian, but I AM infertile----and that attitude is EXACTLY why infertile couples don't usually advertise WHY they don't have kids.
And by that token---are those couples that CHOOSE not to have children useless because they don't reproduce? Are they EVIL because they choose not to add to the growing population problem in the world?
Honestly, i think there are more Christian ideas that are "defective" than non-christian ideas. And again---anyone arguing that God says that marriage is a man and woman becoming one--and thank you for the quote--should NEVER get divorced, nor believe in divorce, because you're cleaving apart what GOD made to be put together.
If you're protesting gay marriages, you should ALSO be protesting divorced people being able to remarry in the church, because by the church's definition, they CAN'T divorce---GOD made them one, and only GOD can part them. | I believe God meant for sex to be MORE than just to reproduce.
Synn, I do believe that divorce is wrong other than the reasons that God gives in His word. So, I wouldn't get a divorce just because I fell out of love, or couldn't get along or whatever. However there ARE biblical reasons for a divorce but that is for another thread.
I am not protesting Gay marriages. I just wouldn't vote for it. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by michealb If it is about morals and religion why am I allowed to get married? My wife and I are both flaming atheists.
In fact we purposely scrubbed the word god out of all of our marriage vows.
I guarantee that my marriage does more to frown on your religion then any couple that happens to be gay.
Or is that next on the agenda? First make sure marriage gets defined in the state as a religious contract. Then continue to narrow who can get married till only Christians of a certain type can get the benefits of marriage. | I'm glad you found a flaming atheists. Being married to someone like myself could be hazzardous to your health..lol. I don't care if your marriage does more to frown on my beliefs...good for you. sounds more like you hate god than you don't believe in him but that is my take....
Your last comment is just silly. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by classyT I'm glad you found a flaming atheists. Being married to someone like myself could be hazzardous to your health.. | Hello again, T:
I'm a flaming atheist. You'd LOVE being married to me. We'd have a GOOD time.
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Nov 11, 2008, 12:28 PM
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| I don't dislike god he doesn't exist. It would be the same as saying you hate Santa Clause. You can't hate him cause he doesn't exist. You can how ever say you disapprove if someone used the legend of Santa Clause to use children as slave labor. You still wouldn't believe in Santa Clause or hate him. You would hate how people use the idea of him to get what they want. Same thing with me and god just replace Santa Clause with god.
And as far as my last comment being silly. History is full of groups that use wedges to get what they want.
Haven't you ever heard of the poem by Martin Niemöller.
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
It is up to all of us to defend equal rights for everyone regardless of how we feel about how they exorcise those rights because if any of us are not equal then none of us are free. | |
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