Gay Marriage

excon · Nov 11, 2008, 06:42 AM

Hello conservative right wingers:

Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!

You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.

excon

speechlesstx · Nov 11, 2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Synnen

I'd like to know where in the Bible God gave the definition of marriage, actually.

Synnen, that's one of the earliest things found in the bible and affirmed later.

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. gen 2:24

"But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.' "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." Mark 10:6-9

TexasParent · Nov 11, 2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

So we're back to this again? No surprise, I agree entirely with tom. I still have this nagging question though, how CAN gay "marriage" be "equal" to heterosexual "marriage?" It can't, plain and simple. We can bestow all of the same rights and privileges and the two can never be "equal" so why can't we all be happy with civil "unions" and keeping "marriage" the religious institution it has been? I know, you're going to tell me it can be equal, but how? I thought we were supposed to celebrate our differences anyway, so why can't folks be happy with the obvious differences between gay unions and heterosexual marriages if the same rights and privileges apply?

I will assume that your authority on what constitutes marriage is from the Bible. Yet, there are some Christian Churches who interpret the Bible differently and allow the marriage of two people of the same sex.

Tell me, who amongst Christianity settles what is truth and what isn't? The majority? Now that would be a slippery slope.

tomder55 · Nov 11, 2008, 10:37 AM

Obviously each church is subject to their own authority . People are free to go to whatever denomination they are most comfortable in .

classyT · Nov 11, 2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasParent

I will assume that your authority on what constitutes marriage is from the Bible. Yet, there are some Christian Churches who interpret the Bible differently and allow the marriage of two people of the same sex.

Tell me, who amongst Christianity settles what is truth and what isn't? The majority? Now that would be a slippery slope.

God's word is the final authority...not a Church and not the majority. if you look hard enough you can find a CHRUCH to stand for whatever you want it to. doesn't make it right.

TexasParent · Nov 11, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Obviously each church is subject to their own authority . People are free to go to whatever denomination they are most comfortable in .

Then why are you supporting the Government getting involved in telling those Churches who are ok with gay marriage that they can't marry gay couples? I thought right wingers didn't like Government involvement in people's lives?

passmeby · Nov 11, 2008, 10:58 AM

Great answer, classy!! So true.

Anyway, I have to say how I can't believe how nasty the OP has been through this topic. He asked for opinions, called on Christians to answer, and then slams everyone with a differing opinion.

I don 't think gays should be allowed to marry. Not even just from a Christian perspective, I just think it's unnatural. I also think the practice of gay marriage, if legal, would be greatly abused for financial gains. Being gay is a defect, obviously. All living things have one purpose-to reproduce. Just because the times we live in now, where a person can be a productive member of society without having kids, doesn't make being gay not a defect. Obviously, if you're attracted to the same sex, you can't reproduce, and therefore, in the natural world, you are useless.

And that is my opinion, and I think YOU are wrong, excon. What, did you fall in love with your cellie or something? Is this why you are asking?

michealb · Nov 11, 2008, 10:59 AM

If it is about morals and religion why am I allowed to get married? My wife and I are both flaming atheists.
In fact we purposely scrubbed the word god out of all of our marriage vows.
I guarantee that my marriage does more to frown on your religion then any couple that happens to be gay.

Or is that next on the agenda? First make sure marriage gets defined in the state as a religious contract. Then continue to narrow who can get married till only Christians of a certain type can get the benefits of marriage.

tomder55 · Nov 11, 2008, 10:59 AM

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Then why are you supporting the Government getting involved in telling those Churches who are ok with gay marriage that they can't marry gay couples?

did I say that ? no I did not . I made no opinion on churches that marry gay couples at all. What I did say was that marriage is a religious institution and that the state should not be involved in sanctioning them . I said the state instead should be certifiying unions of couples and calling it that.

Synnen · Nov 11, 2008, 10:59 AM

Thank you for that definition.

michealb · Nov 11, 2008, 11:02 AM

I could get into the whole whose god's word is the final authority there are so many and where does that word come from and how do you verify that it is gods will. That's probably a topic for another thread though.



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