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Nov 11, 2008, 06:42 AM
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| | | Gay Marriage Hello conservative right wingers:
Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!
You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:13 AM
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| Hello Syn:
That just makes TOO much sense.....
But, the right isn't trying to make it equal. It's about MORALS - not equality. Good for tom for saying it outright.
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:18 AM
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| "There is nothing divine about morality; it is purely a human affair"
Albert Einstein, 1954 | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:23 AM
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To make it COMPLETELY equal would require that ONLY marriages made by the state be recognized as legal for any kind of legal/state benefit--like seeing your spouse in the hospital, or inheritance upon death, or legal decisions when they are incapacitated, or tax breaks.
All religious marriages would then be ONLY recognized by the church.
If you want recognition from both, then you have to get married in both.
| exactly ...except for legal purposes the word "marriage " would be scrubbed . Leave marriage as the religious institution it was intended as. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 exactly ...except for legal purposes the word "marriage " would be scrubbed . Leave marriage as the religious institution it was intended as. |
Some Christian denominations marry Gay people willingly as their interpretation of the Bible is different from more fundamental Christian Churches. Do we not have freedom of religion? | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 exactly ...except for legal purposes the word "marriage " would be scrubbed . Leave marriage as the religious institution it was intended as. | Hello again, tom:
You're getting real close..... but you still want a legal distinction....
What if we just called religious marriage - marriage - but call every union that has RIGHTS attached to it, governmentified?
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello again, pass:.
But no..... Because gays are going to hell, so they don't deserve ANYTHING... Come on, pass. You can tell us how you REALLY feel. | oh come on ex that is unfair. I love how you asked for our opinions and then answer it yourself.
Christians believe that the LORD instituted marriage and that it is between a man and a woman. He made adam and eve ( not adam and steve...bad joke) In the bible homosexuality is considered a sin...but so is lying, cheating, fornication ect. As a Christain woman, I do not think homosexuality is any worse than any other sin. There isn't a sin that man commits that isn't forgivable..except of course rejection of Christ. So to say that we think all Gays are headed for hell is BOGUS.
Because I am a Christian I believe marriage should STAY between a man and a woman. That is NOT UN christian. What WOULD be un-Christian is to hate someone just because they are gay. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by classyT What WOULD be un-Christian is to hate someone just because they are gay. | Hello T:
You know what??? I'll bet the gays would be ok if you hated them, but let them marry?
Denying them the rights that you yourself enjoy, is pretty un-Christianlike, in my view. But, I'm not a Christian, so I can only guess what IS Christianlike and what isn't. I hear about loving your neighbor as yourself. I hear about not doing something to somebody that you don't want done to yourselves....
I dunno. Maybe I'm not hearing you Christians correctly. Set me straight.
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Nov 11, 2008, 09:57 AM
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| I'd like to know where in the Bible God gave the definition of marriage, actually. | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 10:19 AM
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| So we're back to this again? No surprise, I agree entirely with tom. I still have this nagging question though, how CAN gay "marriage" be "equal" to heterosexual "marriage?" It can't, plain and simple. We can bestow all of the same rights and privileges and the two can never be "equal" so why can't we all be happy with civil "unions" and keeping "marriage" the religious institution it has been? I know, you're going to tell me it can be equal, but how? I thought we were supposed to celebrate our differences anyway, so why can't folks be happy with the obvious differences between gay unions and heterosexual marriages if the same rights and privileges apply? | |
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Nov 11, 2008, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello T:
You know what??? I'll bet the gays would be ok if you hated them, but let them marry?
Denying them the rights that you yourself enjoy, is pretty un-Christianlike, in my view. But, I'm not a Christian, so I can only guess what IS Christianlike and what isn't. I hear about loving your neighbor as yourself. I hear about not doing something to somebody that you don't want done to yourselves....
I dunno. Maybe I'm not hearing you Christians correctly. Set me straight.
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HEY....homosexual activity is a sin according to the BIBLE...not according to me. I am so far from God's standard of right that it isn't even funny! But for me to vote for something that I know God has said no to IS WORNG. We should love our neighbor as ourselves and we should do unto to others ...but all of that has to line up with what God has set as right and wrong. I can love my neighbor but if he asked me to drive the get away car when he robs a bank..i gotta say no.
The problem today is that people in general don't want God's standard. They don't WANT right and wrong and God FORBID you be polically incorrect and be a "CHRISTIAN" and stand for God's WORD. I can't count the times i have been called intolerant because I believe in right and wrong. I am NOT intolerant....i just believe God's word. I don't hate Gay's I dont hate people who have abortions...i don't hate anyone. I just couldn't VOTE for something that I know God said...don't do.
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Genesis 2:24 Therfore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh. that is the biblical definition of marriage. | |
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