Gay Marriage

excon · Nov 11, 2008, 06:42 AM

Hello conservative right wingers:

Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!

You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.

excon

Altenweg · Feb 28, 2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare81

Then according to you the legal age for marriage should be in our 20's ? and if a 29 years old marries a 19 year old it should be considered child abuse??

If we don't need any scientific studies, then all we would be doing is enforcing our morals on other.

Nope, wrong. Sadly, the law is written that most people can legally marry at at least 18 years of age. Should they? Probably not, most of these young marriages don't last, that's a fact.

Once again, you brought up morals, we just responded in kind.

Check out gay divorces versus straight divorces. Wanna bet who has a higher divorce rate?

Also, a 29 year old and 19 year old are considered adults, not children. If you can't vote, should you marry? Obviously you're not considered an adult until 18 years of age. So why should 16 year olds be allowed to marry? Doesn't make sense.

starbuck8 · Feb 28, 2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare81

Then according to you the legal age for marriage should be in our 20's ? and if a 29 years old marries a 19 year old it should be considered child abuse??

If we don't need any scientific studies, then all we would be doing is enforcing our morals on other.

A 20 year old would not be a child would he/she. A 16 year old is still a child, according to all medical/scientific research, and when they reach the age of maturity and adulthood. This has little to do with morals. This is a matter of fact. I was stating that it is a medical fact that the human brain does not fully mature until into the 20's, and therefore so of the area's of the brain do not yet have the full capacity to understand repercussions, and choices that are made before their brain has fully developed.

But, this thread is about "Gay Marriage," and not the issue of someone elses "moral standards."

Altenweg · Feb 28, 2009, 12:57 PM

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But, this thread is about "Gay Marriage," and not the issue of someone elses "moral standards."

Exactly. But the people against Gay marriage only have their so called "morals" to offer as a reason to ban Gay marriage.

I hope I live to see the day that people can accept other people for who and what they are. Maybe the next generation will be more understanding, more "blind" to all of these issues. Until then, let's hope that the people who already understand that being Gay, black, chinese, whatever, doesn't define who you are, can make enough of a difference to make this world a better place to live in, for all the people who live in it.

starbuck8 · Feb 28, 2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Exactly. But the people against Gay marriage only have their so called "morals" to offer as a reason to ban Gay marriage.

I hope I live to see the day that people can accept other people for who and what they are. Maybe the next generation will be more understanding, more "blind" to all of these issues. Until then, let's hope that the people who already understand that being Gay, black, chinese, whatever, doesn't define who you are, can make enough of a difference to make this world a better place to live in, for all the people who live in it.

Everyone should be able to live in the body they were born in. It's society that imposes their morals and way of thinking, on others. It doesn't mean we all need to agree or conform. People should be allowed to live a happy and productive life, no matter what lifestyle they choose, the color of their skin, or their religion. However, this should not be imposed or pushed down the throats of others who have different beliefs. Is it a point of contention for many, when we are trying to convince someone that white is white, and black is black --in a general sense, and not concerning ethnicticity--it is often hard for some very conservative people to swallow.

Did I just morph into a politician there?

haha.

cozyk · Feb 28, 2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare81

I am not kidding, as i said before the legal age to get married in almost all countries is 16.Could you please point me to any scientific studies that show that have sex while you are 16 is harmful, i can point you out to a lot which says that it is not.

What about the fact that you have not matured to a stage that you fully comprehend the fall out when you end up making a baby or with some life long disease. Sure, this happens to older people too but chances are, the younger you are, the less life experiences to reflect on, and the less capable you are to handle the consequences that sex could bring.. Do you know a 16 year old that has finished their education, has the ability to bring to a home that baby home to a place that the 16 yr old owns? Feed, it cloth it, put it in daycare while you work since you have to get money some way. Do you know a 16 yr old that is ready to settle down? Has their career up and going? Just because some countries allow marriage at 16 doesn't take away from the disasters that it could bring. Would you like to be the child of a 16 year old couple?

Please do point out the studies that show that it is not harmful.

starbuck8 · Feb 28, 2009, 03:50 PM

I'm also awaiting the studies! Can we say "Octumum"? Okay, this is a different discussion, and this woman has serious issues, but a 16 yr. old that is "in loooove" does not have the capability to see around corners.

Dare81 · Feb 28, 2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by starbuck8

I'm also awaiting the studies! Can we say "Octumum"? Okay, this is a different discussion, and this woman has serious issues, but a 16 yr. old that is "in loooove" does not have the capability to see around corners.

I am trying to find a link. I do have a job and family that i like to spend time with.Be patient

Dare81 · Feb 28, 2009, 07:28 PM

[quote=Altenweg;1575717]Nope, wrong. Sadly, the law is written that most people can legally marry at at least 18 years of age. Should they? Probably not, most of these young marriages don't last, that's a fact.

Once again, you brought up morals, we just responded in kind.

Check out gay divorces versus straight divorces. Wanna bet who has a higher divorce rate?

All i said was morals differ from society to society, which is true.i was replying to ure statement that it is immoral for a 16 year old to have sex or ,emotionally not suitable i guess is the right word, you still have not given be any scientific studies that prove this????

Unless you do, these are just your opinions, what you think is right.( YOUR MORALS).A19 year is considered an adult in society not by science.Science says that adults comletly mature around 20 years old

It is however a scientific and medical fact, that your brain does not fully develop, until you are well into your 20's. . ( Starbucks 8)

I am not arguing for or against gay marriages. I saw your statement which said that sex before 16 is harmful, which i think is wrong.

Dare81 · Feb 28, 2009, 07:30 PM

g? Just because some countries allow marriage at 16 doesn't take away from the disasters that it could bring. Would you like to be the child of a 16 year old couple?

Please do point out the studies that show that it is not harmful.[/quote]

Almost all countries marriage at 16 is legal. you can check the Wikipedia article that i have provided above

inthebox · Feb 28, 2009, 07:34 PM

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Until then, let's hope that the people who already understand that being Gay, black, chinese, whatever, doesn't define who you are

Being Black or Asian or Hispanic or white or male or female or young or oold or fat or skinny for that matter - DOES define who you are. It is defined biologically. Different races and genders are predisposed to getting certain illnesses due to their race or gender.

People can SEE the difference.
It is blindness not to acknowledge this.
It is the first step to recognizing individual differences, and that we all don't have to look, think, act alike to get along.

You can't compare homosexuality. You can't "SEE" it when you pass someone on the street. They have to let you know. A woman can't be in the closet about the gender and neither can a black or Asian or Hispanic person.

G&P



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