Hello conservative right wingers:

Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!

You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.

excon

Dare81

I am not kidding, as i said before the legal age to get married in almost all countries is 16.Could you please point me to any scientific studies that show that have sex while you are 16 is harmful, i can point you out to a lot which says that it is not.

starbuck8

Please do point us to this information!

Dare81

Marriageable age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Legal age for marriage link.

Let me try to find the link for the scientific studies, i have hard copies. hopefully i can find the links too

Altenweg

You show me yours, I'll show you mine. I never said it was illegal, I said it was morally wrong. That's your arguement against gay marriage, so tell me, do you think it's morally right for a 16 year old to marry? Forget about legalities.

Again, if you had a daughter, would you allow her to have sex at 16 years of age? Would you think it's morally right to let her marry? If so, then we have nothing further to discuss.

Gay marriage between two consenting adults is more moral then marrying off a 16 year old child!

Wondergirl

Physically harmful, no. Emotionally harmful, yes. There are studies about that. Academically harmful, yes. That's obvious.

Have you looked around and talked with 16 y/os in the U.S.? Many are thinking of college and a career, not a family. Sex makes babies. The culture in the U.S. does not prepare 16 y/os to be parents. It's preparing them to be productive adults. In other countries the culture is entirely different because 16 y/os are often considered adults there.

Dare81

Morality differs from culture to culture, i am sure you know this, my mother was married to my father when she was 16. That is the cultural norm in Pakistan, hence it is moral in Pakistan to for teenagers at 16 to get married. It is illegal and morally wrong here to marry your cousins, in most Muslim countries it is moral and not illegal to marry your cousin.

So we cant have a society based on your moral as i said before, it is the morals of the majority that we have to live by.

This is the argument i was using for gay marriages.

I don't have children now and i don't know if i would have a problem with her having sex or getting married at 16. In btw even if i did i wold not answer this question as it is personal, We can have a general discussion here and i am sure we can have that discussion without bringing my whole family in it

Dare81

I agree. I thought we were talking about 16 year old from around the world not just from the U.S.

starbuck8

I agree, and just because the "law" says it's legal, doesn't make it moral. That IS what we were talking about here wasn't it? I don't need any scientific research to tell me that children that are not yet even at the age of consent, do not yet understand the consequences of their actions.

It is however a scientific and medical fact, that your brain does not fully develop, until you are well into your 20's. Therefore, I would have to conclude that having sex at the age of 16 or younger, could be detrimental to the teens involved.

As far as I'm concerned, and this is my opinion, any country who allows children as young as 14 years of age to marry and have sex, is child abuse!

Dare81

Then according to you the legal age for marriage should be in our 20's ? and if a 29 years old marries a 19 year old it should be considered child abuse??

If we don't need any scientific studies, then all we would be doing is enforcing our morals on other.

Altenweg

We aren't talking about Pakistan, we're talking about the US and making Gay marriage legal there. I live in Canada, we already allow Gay marriage. Are you saying that Canadians have no morals, or maybe we're just more open minded than most.

You are the one that brought the moral issue into this game. As Excon stated, the constitution says nothing about morals. Too many people with differing ideas, we shouldn't consider morals when deciding on legalities.

Bottom line, who does it hurt to allow Gay marriage? Does it effect you? I doubt it. No one here has said that churches have to allow Gay marriages, nor do they (that are supposed love all man kind and accept all man kind) have to accept gays into their church. That is their right, no one is going to take that away from them.

But, why should Gays not have the same rights as the rest of us? Just because they love someone of the same sex? Do you really think they would choose that course? Why would anyone choose something that would ostersize them from society? It's not a choice it's who they are, therefore they should be allowed the same rights as any other human being on this planet.

Like it or lump it, you brought morality into this, and that shouldn't even be considered.